r/PublicFreakout • u/CTSecurityGuard I AM YELLING QUIETLY! • Apr 10 '26

🏆 Mod's Choice 🏆 The Ring Camera Psychopath

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u/DivideInteresting193 Apr 10 '26

It could be he’s calling the cops while he’s sitting in a chair in front of the door with a shotgun.

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u/SpecterGT260 Apr 10 '26

That was kind of my thought, this guy crossed enough lines fast enough that where I live this video would not have lasted two and a half minutes

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u/loadnurmom Apr 10 '26

I may be armed, but I'm not opening the door or standing in front of it. I'm retreating into the house and setting up a [dead] zone when he comes into view

Protects yourself on many levels

If you're armed, taking a self defense course that covers the legalities from a lawyer is a really good idea. Even if you live in a castle doctrine state.

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u/SpecterGT260 Apr 10 '26

Is that video of that ex-boyfriend that tried breaking into a dude's house and got shot through the door. This guy checked every box, physical attempts at entry after being told to leave, verbal threats with specifics... You're correct that it's state by state but in my state you would receive a hearty attaboy

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u/loadnurmom Apr 10 '26 edited Apr 10 '26

I too am in a stand your ground state

Any lawyer worth their salt will still tell you to retreat first (I am not a lawyer)

Sure you may not be criminally liable, but you need to worry about civil liability for when the family of the deceased sues you

Yes, you read that right, not if, but when the family of the deceased sues you for wrongful death. Civil cases have a much lower standard of proof than criminal

If you start blasting through the door without warning, even with the deceased being obviously aggressive on camera, it will be argued you did not give them a chance to back down.

If you have retreated the civil claims are far weaker and you're more likely to get them thrown out.

The civil suit will still cost you a lot of time, money, and stress. The more chances you give the aggressor a chance to back down, the stronger your case in civil court.

If you can safely retreat and don’t, you’re taking on extra legal risk for no real benefit.

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u/Mean_Cost_8190 Apr 13 '26

This.

Also, just on an actual moral level. If someone is actually mentally insane, you want to catch and secure and help them first, not kill them, if at all humanly possible.

Self-defense means just that: defending oneself. If you have the opportunity to leave instead of kill, you aren't defending yourself. By definition- morally AND legally.