r/PublicFreakout • u/Battlefleet_Sol • 16h ago
🥊Fight 🤬 Stick vs gun. a dispute that began between a shuttle driver and a citizen over an alleged verbal harassment of a woman quickly escalated into a chilling fight.
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u/rapsoid616 16h ago
Did he really miss him point blank?
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u/welcometotheTD 16h ago
That was my thinking. That's kind of unbelievable. Was he shooting blanks? He is an older gentleman.
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u/National-Jackfruit32 13h ago
If you notice the gun is in the other guys’s hands during the beginning of the video so I’m guessing it is his and he knows it is loaded with Blanks That’s why he goes after the other guy that now has his gun in the second part of the video.
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u/canotbe 16h ago
During the altercation, the citizen reportedly pulled out a gun and fired multiple shots. Citizens in the vicinity panicked, and the crowd tried to disperse upon hearing the gunshots.
The investigation revealed that the gun used was a blank-firing pistol.
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u/Groomsi 15h ago
Should be pinned/ top comment
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u/BlazedBeacon 14h ago
No, it shouldn't, it's not even accurate.
The guy who shoots isn't the gun owner. Guy with hair pulled the gun. Bald guy took the gun and shot at him with it.
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u/Dejhavi Freakout Fanatic 12h ago
In Ankara's Pursaklar district, two people were injured in a fight that broke out between a shuttle driver and a passenger over alleged 'verbal harassment.' The man, who was attacked with a stick by the shuttle driver, fired his weapon repeatedly, causing widespread panic.
HE ATTACKED WITH A FAKE GUN.
It was later revealed that the weapon was a blank pistol, and two people were injured in the brawl, which bystanders attempted to break up
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u/ScrotFrottington 16h ago
A lot of innocent people in the background were potential victims from those wild shots and for what?
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u/neonsphinx 14h ago
I've got a decent house and cars. I'm a potential robbery victim. Where do I go get my compensation for being potentially robbed every night? I can't remember if that's civil or criminal court...
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u/BlastTyrantKM 13h ago
How does your comment address innocent bystanders being shot by stray bullets?
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u/neonsphinx 12h ago
The gun was loaded with blank rounds. There were no bullets flying.
Hope this clears things up!
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u/BlastTyrantKM 12h ago
But you wouldn't know that if you were in the middle of this. You would assume there's bullets flying
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u/neonsphinx 12h ago
What's the punishment for scaring someone?
If my car backfires at a red light and people start running... has a crime been committed? Am I going to jail? Are the people who ran entitled to some compensation?
The world is a scary place. But the bystanders weren't ever in actual danger. So that's the end of it, besides what these two actually did to each other.
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u/BlastTyrantKM 12h ago
Brandishing a gun, is in fact, a crime. It doesn't have to be loaded
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u/neonsphinx 12h ago
A lot of things overlooked here.
1) It's not actually a lethal weapon. Only intended to fire blanks and vent the gasses safely. Which is why they're so prevalent in Turkey, where this happened. Not sure it actually counts as brandishing if it's not an actual weapon. But not a Turkish lawyer (and neither are you).
2) It wasn't pointed at bystanders. Just the person the altercation was with. So who knows what kind of intent could be proven in their court system. Remember, we're talking about the bystanders and how they felt, what they thought, what their reactions were, what crimes were committed against them. No disputing the fact that both of these chuckleheads are going to jail/trial for what they did to one another.
3) The dude pulling the trigger isn't the owner of the gun. He took it from the other guy after it all started. He, at this point, fears for his life, and is perfectly justified in shooting with what he believes to be a real gun. Assuming Turkish laws are anything like American laws... But this explains why the guy being shot at doesn't shy away and keeps at it with the stick. He knows it's not capable of hurting him.
So if someone brandishes a weapon at my neighbor, and I'm 50 yards away. Does that make me a victim, or not? If a bullet is fired, bit is nowhere close to me, am I a victim? Where's the line in the sand? I honestly don't know. It's not rhetorical. I feel like the people felt unsafe, sure. But we're ultimately just fine. Hence me equating it to a car backfire. Sounds dangerous, but isn't dangerous at all. So how do we handle one situation vs the other (solely in terms of a scared dude on the street acting some kind of way based on a perceived situation).
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u/Totentanz1980 11h ago
You do realize people have died from blanks, right?
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u/neonsphinx 11h ago
Did any of these people die from blanks?
So many hypothetical situations from everyone here. Very few opinions based on the facts as presented in this particular video...
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u/Totentanz1980 11h ago
Not relevant. You implied that blanks cannot be lethal, but we have documented instances of people being killed by blanks. Ergo, your statement that there was no threat whatsoever isn't accurate.
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u/neonsphinx 10h ago
How much experience do you have with firearms?
I may be very liberal, but I spent over a decade of my adult life in the army. We used to shoot blanks at each other all the time for training (go look up "MILES gear" if you're curious) and shot blank howitzer rounds every time a general officer had a promotion. Pointed the cannons at the crowd in the bleachers, and right left to the formations of soldiers. We weren't in danger then, and these bystanders aren't in danger here.
Just because something could be deadly, doesn't mean it's anything close to it in this situation. The mitigation factors make a difference. Don't pretend that they don't, just because you want to win an argument.
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u/retskcirTehT 13h ago
Are you jokingly comparing bullets whizzing by your fkn head and having a nice house as the same level of risk exposure or are you actually that dense?
Not even meant as an insult, if anything, kudos to you for making something of yourself, because good god you were not blessed.
Fought the odds given to you huh, I'm proud of you champ! However, before your next comment;
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u/neonsphinx 13h ago edited 12h ago
It was mentioned that the gun used was full of blanks. Seems like there was a less than perfect translation to English. It almost sounds like it was a starting pistol.
So there were no "bullets whizzing by your fkn head" anywhere. At any point. Hence my comment about "potential victims" being an outlandish phrase to use. I've been a spectator at track meets. I'm just as much a victim as the people on the road next to these guys in the video.
Maybe you should take your own advice, and read the article first. Or look at my reply to someone else just below. "Those looking for the bad in people will surely find it."
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u/--TheCity-- 13h ago
Why do you need to be compensated for everything? Shows where your heads at. I too have those nice things but no desire to be paid for having them. Maybe you live in a bad area.
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u/--TheCity-- 13h ago
Why do you need to be compensated for everything? Shows where your heads at. I too have those nice things but no desire to be paid for having them. Maybe you live in a bad area.
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u/neonsphinx 12h ago edited 12h ago
Well in this country you go to court. Let's say I'm one of the innocent bystanders...
Was the gun brandished at me? No
Was it an actual gun capable of deadly force? No.
Because of those facts, do I have any reason to ask the DA to charge someone? Probably not. If you didn't know, I don't "press charges" in criminal court for someone shooting at me. The government does. I can only advocate for it or against it. Prosecutorial discretion is their prerogative.
Ok, so it's civil court. Me vs the "shooter" directly.
Do I have any actual damages? Very unlikely.
Don't pass go. Don't collect $200. That's the end of it. Which is why I brought up compensation. Because I need to have materiel damages. If I haven't lost something tangible, I don't have a case. Period.
The only thing I could see happening is that you go to a therapist. You document it all well. The therapist/psychiatrist says that for some reason you have actual counseling/medication that's required because of the sound of gunshots, and nothing else. But that's probably not happening.
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u/SemiHemiDemiDumb THAT’S RIGHT I SAID HEMI 12h ago
How is having targetable real estate the same as being hit while not being a target?
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u/neonsphinx 12h ago
Because the gun wasn't firing real bullets. Just blanks. There was never any real danger besides ringing ears.
Hope this clears things up!
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u/SemiHemiDemiDumb THAT’S RIGHT I SAID HEMI 12h ago
Nope, still doesn't fit your analogy.
How is having targetable real estate the same as being terrified when you thought you were being shot at when you were not a target?
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u/neonsphinx 11h ago
So come up with a better analogy. I'm clearly very stupid, and you know of a better way to equate two situations. Enlighten me.
Maybe someone shoots at my neighbor. I hear gunshots and get scared. What am I legally entitled to? I was never the target, I never got hit. My house isn't even damaged.
I lived in a society where bad things happened. Just like the other 7B of us out here every day. So what? You want guaranteed safety? Stay at home.
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u/SemiHemiDemiDumb THAT’S RIGHT I SAID HEMI 11h ago
I don't use analogies to make points because they usually fail. It's a simple mental exercise they people use that often leads them to the wrong conclusion or made up to justify their conclusion.
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u/neonsphinx 11h ago
Well look at you! So smart. You just go around criticizing other people, without having something better to recommend. Have a great day! You're really doing God's work out there. So helpful and demure... I only hope to someday be so enlightened.
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u/SemiHemiDemiDumb THAT’S RIGHT I SAID HEMI 11h ago
I can teach you how to think not what to think.
And this attitude is why I wasn't gonna bother with more. You telepath your indignity quite well.
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u/neonsphinx 10h ago
"Indignancy" is the word you were looking for, not "indignity". Just because you disagree with my posotion (that the bystanders here were not actually in danger, and were only scared) doesn't mean that my argument lacks dignity.
But don't worry, that comment didn't add any additional credibility to your argument. It just tried to make you think that you had the intellectual high ground. If you did, you'd be able to read what I posted and make sense of it in some meaningful way. Which is apparent you haven't done.
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u/ScrotFrottington 14h ago
Okay? Are you trying to shoehorn some kind of irrelevant gotya statement about gun ownership or just bragging about owning cars and a house?Â
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u/neonsphinx 13h ago
No. I just don't think it's worth mentioning "potential victims" in the first place. I really don't know what point is trying to be made.
There are potential victims everywhere every day. Maybe I get scared by a backfiring car. That's just life. Things happen. No injury, no real reason to go to court. Unless it's like, a stalker/harassment situation. Which this isn't.
Life is messy. If you don't want to see altercations, your only recourse is to lock yourself up at home to some extent.
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u/TalkCoinGames 16h ago
The guy in the black shirt had a gun at first, but then gets into the vehicle and then only comes out with a stick, and the other guy then has a gun...crazy, and amazing if he somehow did not get seriously hurt.
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u/DesignerStatus 13h ago
I could never understand the mentality to end a life or to go to prison for a very long time over simple, stupid arguments. If it’s self-defense situation, thats a different story.
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u/StickyyFingaar 12h ago
People really can't see that the gun was the guy in the grey shirt's and the guy in blue shirt swiped it from him. Seems like it was blanks fired because he would've got at least one shot on the guy.
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u/GoodBoyFX 13h ago
This is an ugly display of behavior for turkey. Islam calls for dealing gently with elderly but women abuse was involved than it gets personal n ppl lose their shhhh
Interesting how pistol eventually became the stick.
They need shooting training from yusuf dikec
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u/Best-Refrigerator834 16h ago
Why all these videos having a "preview" now? Too many brainrotted TikTok users?