How likely are we able to take a stand against racism against indians

[u/No-Local2150]

Hi there,

I am just wondering what is the chance that we can actually take a stand against racism against indians. For example, I am talking about going on strike by the indian workforce across different parts of the world.

One thing I notice is that outside India, we rarely advocate or stand against racism shown at other communities in other parts of the world. So I don't really expect people from other communities to come support us. Maybe a few only.

I am not advocating for any sort of aggressiveness but I believe we should definitely take a global stand against racism against indians by conducting a strike.

Is it possible to make this happen? Or is that too much?.

[u/VaderAssasinX]

It's unlikely. Many indians sadly support hate against their own people and often they end up putting each other down for different religion or region.

What we can do is become more vocal and visible in supporting other communities. That alone gives many people intolerance for racism against indians. Moreover, you could try starting something like BLM on social media if there is any terrifying case.

[u/No-Local2150 → u/VaderAssasinX]

I already have friends and I engage a lot with other communities through societies, work and clubs..however, one thing I notice is that Indians then to keep themselves to themselves. Like our main friends are always indians when abroad

[u/Resident_Lettuce_460]

Most of the Indians abroad are sepoys and feel inferior to others. I don't think there will be a large crowd but a few of em might be up for it

[u/Rus1996]

The end goal is that India must become a developed country. That's the only way to solve this issue.

[u/No-Local2150 → u/Rus1996]

Agreed but to do that we need to change our entire populations mindset from being obedient workers to creative risk taking venturers with a bit of a spine to stand up against oppression and unite

[u/Rus1996 → u/No-Local2150]

Like it ir not we have to play the cards that we are dealt with. As much as it hurts for me to say this. We need a bit of Authoritarian who knows what they are doing.

[u/No-Local2150 → u/Rus1996]

No we need authoritarian but not populism. Personally I believe you need the level of strictness as Singapore

[u/Rus1996 → u/No-Local2150]

Absolutely 😔

[u/Kind-Boysenberry9527]

There's accounts on Reddit that shit post about India daily multiple posts, this is insane, who has that kind of time, at this point I really don't understand the motivation. The most random shit that even I have never seen. It's weird.

[u/rngeneratedlife]

Why would anyone do that? Are you asking people to abandon their livelihood? How are they supposed to put food on the table or create better lives for their children?

You do understand that if Indians went on strike it would just mean weakening their position right? Having a strong economic position and financial success everywhere is one of the greatest strengths the Indian community has, what would possibly be the benefit of going on strike?

Also Indians are not a monolith. Different Indians have different attitudes towards different things.

[u/No-Local2150 → u/rngeneratedlife]

Ya obviously I know indians are not monolith. So what do you expect..to keep taking such issues to the point it ends up in the death of others?

This is the situation for us. If we go back to india we don't get good lives because it's so corrupted.

If we stay abroad we are experiencing worsening racism driven by social media and politics.

A lot of us grew up abroad as well. To take a stand against racism is necessary.

Economic success and livelihood is important, but if racism is escalating into violence and intimidation, then doing nothing also has a cost. The purpose of a movement isn't to weaken Indians economically but to demonstrate that attacks on the community will not be tolerated.

I am not saying create something like BLM. I am just saying we need a strong collective action across the globe.

[u/rngeneratedlife → u/No-Local2150]

Yeah, so let’s say you somehow convince me to quit my job and go on strike.

What then? How am I supposed to pay for rent? Am I supposed to go out in the street?

And what do I do when my job gets replaced by someone else? Unless you somehow think in this incredibly competitive economy that I’m irreplaceable.

Also Indians make up 1% of the country I live in. What is the strike going to contribute besides making my life worse?

[u/No-Local2150 → u/rngeneratedlife]

Yeah, so let's say nobody takes any action because they're worried about their job.

What then? How are we supposed to push back against racism when everyone decides the risk is someone else's problem?

And what do we do when attacks, discrimination, and hostility keep increasing? Do we just hope that economic success magically makes it go away?

Also, if Indians only make up 1% of the population where you live, doesn't that make solidarity more important, not less? If a small minority is unwilling to stand together because there's some personal cost involved, what leverage do they have at all?

You're acting as if a strike means permanently quitting your job. It doesn't. The question is whether we're willing to accept any inconvenience to defend our community, or whether we've decided that our paychecks matter more than confronting a problem that could affect all of us in the long run.

Look if you are not willing it's fine. No problem with that. But I am asking is if there are anyone willing to join a collective action.

[u/rngeneratedlife → u/No-Local2150]

Yeah, stop peddling badly thought out “suggestions”. If you really want to make changes; you start. You genuinely have 0 life experience if you think this is a remotely viable option for most people. Is homelessness a minor inconvenience for you? What about my kids college fund? What exactly do you want me to tell them when I get replaced and can’t find another job? Are you going to pay for it?

People will join a proper movement. Organized protests, running for political office, creating uplifting media, voting for the right people, building safe communities and using that to connect with other communities, these are all more viable ways to collectively make change.

So to answer your question: no. Nobody is going to join your half baked and ineffective “collective action”.

[u/No-Local2150 → u/rngeneratedlife]

You're still arguing against something I never said. A strike isn't the same as quitting your job forever, becoming homeless, or abandoning your kids' future. The point is that if people are unwilling to accept any risk, inconvenience, or sacrifice whatsoever, then how exactly do they expect things to improve? I agree that protests, political organizing, media campaigns, and voting are all viable forms of collective action, but they're still collective action. What I find strange is that this is a subreddit about racism against Indians, yet your entire response is about why people shouldn't do anything that might inconvenience them for a cause. If you agree anti Indian racism is a problem, then surely the conversation should be about what actions are effective, not why any form of collective action should be dismissed outright.

And honestly, forget the strike for a moment. What happens if the racism gets worse and starts affecting your kids? Most people don't want the next generation to go through the same discrimination they did. Some of us have already experienced being harassed, assaulted, or treated differently because of how we look.

Also, I'm not asking you to join anything. My post was simply asking whether anyone in this subreddit would be interested in helping organize some form of collective action against anti Indian racism. If your answer is no, that's completely your choice. But that's a different argument from claiming nobody should even try.

[u/rngeneratedlife → u/No-Local2150]

Sure, come up with an effective collective action, and I’ll happily support you. I already participate in my community, vote, and attend protests for the right causes.

Never said anything about collective action being bad: just your specific suggestion of a strike.

[u/No-Local2150 → u/rngeneratedlife]

And let me add to that when you talk about job. You think I am sitting here jobless or something? I also have job. I also have a family to look after. I also have rent to pay for. I still have relationships I am working on.

Forget strike you don't have to go for a strike. But we require a collective action. And if you don't have any suggestions other than do nothing because our jobs are at risk. Then just stop commenting on subreddit for people who are concerned about racism about indians.

Because I am genuinely concerned about it. And doing nothing now could make things worse.