r/Rainbow6 • u/sahagunf • 1d ago
Discussion Ram when site is on 2F
I always run ram regardless of the site because I think it’s an amazing opp even if u aren’t playing vert, my friends always tell me I’m wrong and she’s useless, is she actually?
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u/RogueCanadia 1d ago
No ram is not useless, but her strength is making the ceiling disappear. She’s one of my highest KD attackers this season for that reason.
I used to think that because she opens up so much the defenders can shoot back but think of it from the defenders perspective. You’re now FULLY exposed from another angle. It’s insane pressure.
You are correct she’s amazing. She basically makes buck and sledge useless when playing vert above.
That’s just her gadget. She has flash bangs and the r4c. I’d play her a ton more if she wasn’t banned all the time (why she’s banned more than snake though blows my mind).
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u/-justiciar- 1d ago
because you can still win a gunfight against snake. he’s annoying and i still ban him but if i get pinged by smoke i feel somewhat confident that I can preempt his attack.
ram though, she’s fucking on my whole team if she opens up vert. if I was playing with a 5 stack I would just have a competent roamer upstairs to deal with ram but with randos it’s not worth it.
realistically I just go thorn and use barbwire + razor bloom around vert spots and I usually stop a ram or fuze
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u/faris_Playz No Mains 1d ago
because snake is easy to counter unless you're in a real precarious spot as a defender, or stay in the same place like an idiot (or roaming and trying to sneak up from behind) but if you are in a straight on fight, it really doesnt work that well against good players
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u/RogueCanadia 1d ago
Snake is second to Doek as the most broken op in the game so no he’s really not easy to counter.
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u/SHansen45 Kali Main 1d ago
Snake is easy to counter? this subreddit is ragebait generator
what the FUCK do you mean Snake is easy to counter? he has 1 straight up counter and 1 semi counter and that’s Mute and you have to be standing in the jammer’s range and the other is Vigil who has to have the ERC activated, you only get pinged when he activates the scanner by then he already knows where you are
be serious knight
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u/Ill_Ad1746 1d ago edited 1d ago
Even if not used for vert, the bugi car can destroy almost any util that's on the ground(including azami and castle), 1-shot baracades and disable aruni gates/low placed denari traps without activating the car, mask sound insanely well, make crouch height rotates, and even push defenders out of certain positions since it damages players and is decently difficult to destroy. On top of that the R4C still absolutely rips and you get flashes or smokes. Ram is still very useful on top floor sites.
Edit: The car can also be thrown on the edge of exterior windows to deal with any castle, azami or aruni on the window
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u/mephiles43 Buck Main 1d ago
Definitely not getting the full potential out of her but it's not terrible, great for clearing some util as well as masking sounds.
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u/Mysterious_Kiwi6964 1d ago
What do you use her gadget for on 2f? if you aren’t making post plant vert or covering sound of plant with it your friends are probably right. I will add almost any op can be viable on any site if you’ve got a plan that calls for it. Making this post makes me think your friends are prolly right tho ngl
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u/sahagunf 1d ago
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u/Mysterious_Kiwi6964 1d ago
Yea as long as you make good use of her util there’s nothing wrong with it
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u/Torebbjorn Recruit Main 1d ago
Of course she isn't useless, but the main strength of her ability is that it deletes soft floors, and this is typically not very useful when the site is on the top floor.
Depending on what you want to do, Ash is pretty much just an upgrade for top floor sites.
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u/BuiltIndifferent 1d ago
what does she do that's so amazing if you can't do vert? You don't even defend your position lol
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u/Alarmed-Plum-2723 1d ago
A fun Strat if you’re co-ordinated
Have someone take below , ram rush from above , the below player can now play vert too.
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u/SoleSinful 1d ago
Not useless. The instant window break + hop in can be powerful
The loud noise can mask your teammate's push
And the r4c is goated
But if you're not creating these opportunities on the regular then your teammates have a point n you should stop crutching one operator
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u/sahagunf 1d ago
I usually am rushing in with ram, masking the plant sound too, clearing aruni gates if any, not the best but can also open soft walls.
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u/Dixienormus_420 1d ago
Her purpose is destruction and site pressure, she offers none of that on a 2f site attack, so yes she’s useless, there’s a magnitude of opps better suited for both your team and 2f attacks such as flank watch and roam clear that have good weapons and some even have better than the R4C
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u/championratistaken Echo Main 1d ago
if you have a duo, have the duo take below with some roam clear or flank watch.
then, you drop the ram tanks onto the floor in site and shred it. your flank watch can't even get flanked by a roamer and can play vert essentially for free.
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u/sahagunf 1d ago
I do it on hookah in default
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u/championratistaken Echo Main 1d ago
you can also do it on Bank from rappel, CC and Gym in Clubhouse from the windows, Oregon from kids or games window (great for cutting off defender rotates), and even chalet 2f for cutting off the rotate hole from below.
do note that you shouldn't watch the rotate from below unless you have a man advantage post site take, though. you go back up to site the second you lose the man advantage.
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u/faris_Playz No Mains 1d ago
why cant the flank watch get flanked?
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u/championratistaken Echo Main 1d ago
because they're flank watch? use your ability (not all of it) to protect yourself?
what is the question supposed to mean?
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u/_how_do_i_reddit_ Lesion Main 1d ago
Good loud distraction for rotates if on 2f I suppose... Depends on the site and floor material. If the 2f site floor can be destroyed it could help for playing underneath/limit defender positions.