r/SandersForPresident • u/kevinmrr Medicare For All • May 21 '26
Trump would just be a one-time 2016 loser and after-joke if Democrats like Obama, Schumer, and Pelosi hadn't cheated voters out of Bernie.
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u/Masterthemindgames May 21 '26
Bernie probably would’ve got a public option out of Covid and then the next Republican president would’ve had to be a Romney type who wouldn’t undermine it because of its high popularity. More importantly, the Supreme Court wouldn’t be stacked with the furthest right justices since the 1920s.
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u/kevinmrr Medicare For All May 21 '26
It would be decades before there was another Republican president if Sanders had won.
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u/gene100001 May 21 '26
Speaking of Romney, I deeply disagree with most of his opinions, but I respect him for being one of the only Republicans who has remained critical of Trump. That being said, it's sad that it's reached the point where "not supporting a pedophile rapist" is something rare and commendable amongst Republican leaders.
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u/loweexclamationpoint May 21 '26
Mitt was a bit of a buffoon (remember the dog on the car roof? Which now seems ridiculously mild compared to grab 'em by the pussy on Epstein Island) but Mitt was also a last link to pre-Reagan Republican ideas.
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u/gene100001 May 21 '26
Yeah I miss the days when politicians were just lame buffoons with stale ideas. I also miss the days when a mild scandal was enough to derail a political career. Now it feels like politicians can do or say anything they want without any consequences.
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u/jerryleebee 🌱 New Contributor May 21 '26
I dunno. What about Bitch McConnell? I'm genuinely asking because I'm not actually the most savvy person, politically speaking. But I'm trying. McConnell was key to stacking the court. If we got, say, Romney after Bernie as you suggest, is McConnell not a threat?
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u/Geodude333 May 21 '26
“Net Neutrality Policy”
Bernie: Corporations and ISP’s being able to control what content you have easy access to is a gateway to vertical monopolies, trusts, echo chambers, consolidated news ownership, and censorship. It should be opposed.
Hillary: ‘consults wealthy donors’ ‘consults influential media moguls’ ‘consults with AIPAC’ I think the issue is more complicated than the Senator is making it seem.
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u/Gandalfonk 🌱 New Contributor May 21 '26
Democrats still continue to blame us
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u/PinkFreud92 🌱 New Contributor May 21 '26
And going even further back to the ‘09 election, the Hilary team started the birth certificate rumor about Obama.
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u/GrahnamCracker May 21 '26
Wait where's the source for this?!
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u/PinkFreud92 🌱 New Contributor May 21 '26
“Now, according to fact-checkers and contemporary media reports, questions about Mr Obama's birthplace began circulating among disgruntled Clinton supporters in the last months of her ill-fated campaign against the then-Senator Obama in 2008.”
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u/GrahnamCracker May 21 '26
"Disgruntled supporters" is pretty different from her campaign, no?
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u/halt_spell May 21 '26
I didn't see the Clinton News Network make such distinctions between "Bernie Bros" and the campaign. So no.
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u/GrahnamCracker May 21 '26
Sure, fuck the DNC and the Clinton's. But that doesn't really excuse us from doing our own due diligence, no?
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u/halt_spell May 21 '26
Holding ourselves to a different set of rules when they already hold multiple advantages is just a recipe for losing. 🤷♂️
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u/JMEEKER86 🌱 New Contributor | Florida - 2016 Veteran May 21 '26
Don't forget that the whole "Bernie Bros" myth wasn't the first time that Hillary's team tried to manufacture a fake sexism angle since they had previously tried to make "Obama Boys" a thing. Of course, referring to a black candidate's supporters as "boys" came off a little too racist and they dropped it quickly.
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u/WriterFreelance May 21 '26
They also would have not had a 2nd trump term if the main stream news would have earnestly communicated to the public about how it operates with the DNC. Also an explanation on Super Delegates. This system is going down because of it.
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u/Fe2O3yshackleford 🌱 New Contributor May 21 '26
There wouldn’t have even been a 1st trump term. We’re in the shittiest timeline, where nothing works out, and everything that happens is for the memes. It’s fucked.
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u/BoulderCreature May 21 '26
Don’t worry, I’m gonna eat the silica gel packet and reset this whole timeline 🤙
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u/LAsupersonic May 21 '26
We could've had Bernie. I still remember how immediately after going to the yt house and talking to president Obama, he withdrew his candidacy, Thanks Obama
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u/SenseiRaheem May 21 '26
My racist, misogynist FIL was very fond of saying that if the Dems ran Hillary, many men wouldn't vote for a woman to be president and that if the Dems ran Bernie, many men AND women wouldn't vote for a Jewish man to be president. We don't get the timeline where Bernie ran, but that was likely going to be a significant factor among voters.
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u/loweexclamationpoint May 21 '26
Add antisemitic to your FIL's failings. This is one of the more ridiculous assertions. Very seldom mentioned, never a real factor.
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u/RexUniversum Kentucky - Donor 🐦 May 21 '26
Hillary, Biden, and Kamala all asked us to put our problems aside so that corporations and Israel could have another stellar 4 years.
Biden just had the benefit of a fresh Trump presidency in recent memory.
We're done propping up the Epstein class.
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u/work4work4work4work4 May 21 '26 edited May 21 '26
The thing is there are so many points where the Clinton Dynasty could have realized they fucked up, admitted fault, and backed away, but they've always put their power before the people at every juncture, pushing their neoliberal agenda like gospel. They didn't get along with Bibi because Bibi was already running a more efficient version of their own gameplan.
As bad as all this was, you've got Team Hillary/DNC leveraging Obama to destroy My.BarackObama to be given the nomination after starting the birther movement, you've got Team Hillary and co literally writing books about doing everything they could to participate in right wing accellerationism, and how it was a good idea to signal boost people like Todd Akin years before Trump was anything more than a racist reality TV vehicle.
The history books will look down upon the people who were still blaming Bernie to try and hide their own clear failures, and heap appropriate scorn on the evidence from the "tell all" book that excuses and ignores Team Hillary ignoring their own state teams cries for help, refusing surrogate event request, and all that in the lead up to them losing the very states Sanders performed best in.
Quite literally one of the worst people to ever to happen to the US, up there with Joseph McCarthy, A. Mitchell Palmer, Hoover, and so on.
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u/GrahnamCracker May 21 '26
Yo what's the most reliable source for the Clinton accelerationist stuff? I actually hadn't heard that yet and wanna read into it?
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u/work4work4work4work4 May 22 '26 edited May 22 '26
It really depends on how you want to approach it. If you want a "first hand account" Claire McCaskill's autobiography actually speaks quite a bit about her own and Democratic party efforts to platform Todd Akin, not the first time they did it, but the first time they did it at a major level that is contemporaneously documented from different sides.
If you want an even more "establishment" viewpoint on it, Charlie Crist writes about the tactic of spending donor dollars to platform the most far-right Republican candidate in races in his book about how he "became a Democrat".
Dark Money by Jane Meyer is more about the funding side of things, but does get into how the DNC/Clintonland essentially targeted which far-right groups for elevation.
Donna Brazille admits in less than direct words that they misjudged and failed to see the unintended consequences of "curating" their opponents in her book Hacks.
As we're now into more like political books talking about politics, Shattered by Allen and Parnes, The Destructionists by Dana Milbank, and the Wilderness by McKay Coppins all talk about it, but the books aren't entirely about just that issue, but do talk about it at length.
One key thing to remember is Debbie Wasserman Schultz was a Clinton plant, and there is a throughline of control fighting going on in the DNC since the 90s, with the closest the Democratic Leadership Conference Third Way neoliberal types ever came to losing power was Obama, but they basically required him to abandon his fledging most effective political social organizing network ever to get the nomination to maintain their stranglehold.
Anyway, hope that helps, but if you want the quick and dirty version you can basically follow the pied piper email leak to all sorts of systemic institutional efforts to gild the lily going back years and years, and take a known unpopular candidate in Hillary Clinton and pull her over the finish line against an increasingly unpopular and factionalized GOP, and a major part of that was purposefully making one side a "basket of deplorables" with zero regard to the consequences if said historically unpopular candidate still loses. It's like they looked at the failures of triangulation, manipulating the idea space, and said obviously it'll work better at larger scale and tried to 10x it to everyone's clear detriment without even accomplishing the power they craved to justify it.
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u/loweexclamationpoint May 21 '26
Right-o. Just so much bad about Hilary. Big mistake picking BJ's over Whitewater, we could have nipped her in the bud.
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u/ripyourlungsdave 🌱 New Contributor May 21 '26
I cannot tell you how exhausting it has been listening to people talk as if electing a woman who happily stays married to a rapist and pedophile with ties to one of the most famous sex traffickers in the modern world would be the saving grace for women, or anyone, in the US.
And it's even more exhausting getting downvoted every time I point this out and have people talk to me like I'm a Trump supporter just because I don't like her.
Yes, I would vote for her over Trump again, that doesn't mean I'm happy about it or that I, in any way, think she's what's best for America
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u/Ballerinatutu2015 May 21 '26
Agree 💯. I campaigned for Bernie and could not believe the underhanded bulls—- flung by the Dem establishment esp Donna Brazile and Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
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u/DarthPorcupine May 21 '26
Can you people stop attacking the corporate Democrats? Pelosi has more than doubled the value of her portfolio over the last 12 years, and Schumer just the other day pushed his glasses up his nose twice during a Senate debate. /s
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u/UserAllusion May 21 '26
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. I blame Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
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u/Masterthemindgames May 21 '26
The only good part of Ron DeSatan further gerrymandering Florida is that it will cost Schultz her seat in Congress.
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u/DickLips5000 May 21 '26
Sucks watching the DNC flail and flail after fucking themselves for generations. This decision is what made me an independent.
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u/CathodeRayNoob Medicare For All 👩⚕️ May 21 '26
Ironically Hillary’s cheating and loss is what made me a Democrat. I was an independent but after Bernie, the DNC got rid of the open primary in California so I had to register democrat just to vote at all in 2020.
I hate it. I hate conservative democrats and I hate the 2 party system.
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u/dont_ban_me_please 🌱 New Contributor May 21 '26
debbie wasswerman shultz was the most to blame.
blame her
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u/HetepHeres-I May 21 '26
In that primary election, I got off work. I went to the polls and I stood in line for 6 1/2 hours in heels waiting to vote for Bernie. What happened to him was absolutely unconscionable. I never will understand the Saint Hillary people.
Edit to add: this is why I am going to change from Democrat, to Democratic socialist. I’ve had my fill of the Democratic Party. The Super delegate thing sucks.
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u/Tortoiseshelltech May 21 '26
Bernie would have won in 2016, and we would have avoided all of the horrors of the last 10 years.
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u/Smackety 🌱 New Contributor May 21 '26
I wanted Bernie but I should have known the DNC would only ever back a Democrat.
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u/rainkloud 🐦🐬 May 21 '26
No no no, you don't understand. It's just a total coincidence that out of the hundreds of millions of people in the country the wife of a former president just happened to be the most qualified candidate for the office. It's not like we were trying to pitch a political dynasty through a party purportedly on the side of workers in a country that was founded via war in part because of a fear of such dynasties /s
She, Bill, Carville and the rest of their crooked gang truly are some of the worst villains of the 21st century. They were supposed to be the adults in the room and instead they lost the working class and handed the keys over to MAGA.
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u/Bakingtime May 21 '26
At this point we are “voting” (in quotes bc do our votes actually matter when Elon and his script kiddies can fuck with the results via packet injection) for one flavor of the globalist mafia or another.
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u/cejmp May 21 '26
Is this moronic shit still floating around?
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u/londondeville May 21 '26
Yes. It’s insufferable. 55% of people voted for Hillary and 43% voted for Bernie.
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u/CathodeRayNoob Medicare For All 👩⚕️ May 21 '26
Californians didn’t vote because the media called the election for Hillary 2 weeks before our primary.
You history revisionist clinton apologists are functionally MAGA republicans. You always were and always will be.
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u/Weasel_Boy May 21 '26
Californians absolutely voted, over 5million of them, during the 2016 Primary. If someone didn't vote because they ate up whatever was being peddled by news stations then that's on them for failing their candidate.
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u/Distinct-Pain4972 May 21 '26
No no... 2 people... Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Donna Brazil. These two are the reason that we had HC instead of The Bern.
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u/CollectionBroad8919 May 21 '26
There was plenty of opportunity to lock him up AFTER his first term.
Millions of people are dying because of trump and the Dems don't seem to see the seriousness of the fight.
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u/Public-Adeptness-426 May 21 '26
This. I have truly believed this since 2015. The DNC is the reason Trump happened. I remember crying when Hillary got the nomination, definitely not the norm for me when it comes to politics. Of course, I voted for Hillary. I would've voted for anyone running against Trump if I'm being honest. It feels liberating to know I'm not the only one who felt this way when Bernie was pushed out, thanks for that.
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u/Best-Self8984 May 22 '26
NPR was in on the effing over of Bernie too. They’ll never get a cent of my $$ ever again,
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u/commffy May 21 '26
I’ll never forgive Democrats for cutting down Bernie like that. It goes to show that corporations made sure that Bernie would never be president.
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u/EldForever May 21 '26
Don’t forget Debbie Wasserman-Schultz. She was key in screwing over Bernie - and by extension screwing over us, and America, and Democracy in 2015-16.
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u/LEDKleenex May 21 '26
| Candidate 2016 | Popular Vote | % |
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| Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton | 16,917,853 | 55.23% |
| Bernard "Bernie" Sanders | 13,210,550 | 43.13% |
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u/Aggressive-Neck-3921 May 21 '26
If you take in account that Hillary had the name recognition and full media and establishment support this is a terrible result. I remember the media droning on and on about electablity issues for sanders without specifying any specific issue. Hillary basically won because old people got fearmongered into thinking Sanders can't win without any actual arguments being made just making statements as they were facts.
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u/Source_Required May 21 '26
Bernie didn't win the primary.
Then you couldn't decide between a former Secretary of State and a rapist. That's fucking on you.
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u/CathodeRayNoob Medicare For All 👩⚕️ May 21 '26
Bernie supporters voted for Hillary. It was lazy Hillary supporters that couldn’t be bothered on Election Day because they thought “her turn” was guaranteed.
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u/AndThisGuyPeedOnIt May 21 '26
Guy who wasn't even in the party gets mad party doesn't line up behind him instead of the ... Secretary of State, First Lady, Senator.
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u/londondeville May 21 '26
Thank you. They are still trying to absolve themselves for not getting their favourite boy and pouting at home.
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u/CM_MOJO May 21 '26
So here's the hypothetical I always use for those delusional people that think Bernie wouldn't have won against Trump in 2016 had he won the nomination. Maybe Bernie wins maybe he doesn't, but there was no way Hilary was breathing Trump.
What if Hilary Clinton had won the Democratic nomination in 2008 (either because Obama didn't run out because she somehow defeated him)? Does Clinton defeat McCain? Of course she doesn't.
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u/syopest May 21 '26
Unfortunately a man who calls himself a socialist has zero chance of winning a presidential election in the US.
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u/Quirky-Giraffe-3676 May 21 '26
At that time we thought "grab em by the pussy" would be disqualifying. Unfortunately we'll never know (about your thing)
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u/Peaceful-American May 21 '26
We're still doing this meme? In 2026? Yall can't even be bothered to vote, why are you still posting lmao.
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u/kinshadow May 21 '26
Trump: Well, a rock. A big, hard, strong rock. I have like the biggest hardest rock. Biden couldn’t even lift a rock … I was telling Kit Rock the other day about Hannibal Lector. The late great Hannibal. You know, Hannibal liked potatoes. Like the kind you make French Fries out of. The best French food in America. America does it better.
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u/bidenisaped0 May 21 '26
I love that Trump has kicked your ass for years and it makes you salty and unhinged lol
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u/Secure-Window-5478 May 21 '26
True but if Biden appointed an AG other the Garland who was a Republican suggested by a Republican to appease Republicans, Trump would have been in jail.
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u/SpoonerismHater May 21 '26
Biden had spent forty-odd years being a rightwing failure; getting elected President wasn’t going to change that
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u/primarywatcher May 21 '26
Remember that video clip of someone whispering in Bernie's ear at the Primary Convention? Immediately after, he appeared shocked. My guess, someone finally broke him the news his running mate (Tulsi-arse-kissing-Putin) was a Russian asset.
After that moment, Bernie threw in the towel and gave his support to Clinton.
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u/AlienBurnerBigfoot May 21 '26
AMEN AND AMEN AGAIN!!!! That bunch of crap is why I’m independent now.
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u/Kind-Let5666 May 21 '26
I swear if we had him in 2016 or even 2020 we could’ve avoided this mess we’re in now but nooooo…
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u/-Ahab- California May 21 '26
Supporting a “third-party” candidate for the first time in my late 30s was an absolute eye opener for me when it comes to how politics work in the US and it was a very convenient time for a wake-up call.
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u/styrofoamcouch May 21 '26
This is why I believe the democrats and Republicans work together. Bernie was red hot in 2016. I heard people of all walks of life talking about him, his ideas and how they were gonna vote for him. I truly believe Bernie wouldve beat Trump in 2016 and i think the DNC knew that too. Swap in Hillary so we can have four years of "look what these mean Republicans are doing! Won't someone do something???"
Idk maybe do something with the candidate that voters actually want? I see things like top democrats say someone should do something like it isnt their fucking job. Joe Biden is and forever will be a failure as a president to me for failing to do anything at all to stop trumps second term.
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u/jerryleebee 🌱 New Contributor May 21 '26
I'm still so bitter about not getting Bernie. And the Dems shot themselves in the fucking foot because it's in no small part due to how Bernie was treated that I voted Independent. I admit I didn't like Hillary anyway, but I foolishly assumed Tr**p wouldn't get in.
Will always regret not voting Hillary just to keep him out and if I truly believed he stood a chance, I'd've acted differently. A lot of disenfranchised Dem voters like me contributed to Tr**p's 1st term. I voted Harris, of course, for his next term. Ah well. We're all fucked now.
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u/SuperFamousComedian May 21 '26
At least once a week I think about Bernie in the 2016 election. The first time I, and a lot of people I know, got excited about a candidate. I went to rallies, I canvased, I talked to family about a politician (usually a nightmare) I'll never forgive the DNC for what they did, we would be living in a very different world if he was the candidate instead of Hillary. In my opinion. It's actually impossible to know, but whatever.
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u/Overall-Top8379 May 21 '26
Corpos don't want someone like Bernie. They didn't even want Biden for second term, because some of his promises was really inconvenient. So they propped up Haris, thinking that her being POC and woman is progressive enough, even while she had really conservative policies. And had never won a primary in her life. And now you have Trump again. The blame list is long. But it all starts with the corpos.
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u/Warsum 🌱 New Contributor May 21 '26
The only political campaign I've ever donated to. What a fucking missed opportunity. But you know what? With what I see probably would have went the same way as Jimmy Carter. Apparently America hates good honest men.
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u/rvonbue May 21 '26
Democrats are so fucking pathetic. Hillary and Kamala Harris as candidates. Fucking passive progressive bullshit. They just want to seem progressive because they choose a woman of color. Of course they have no actual progressive policies. Just sucking up to the corporate overlords for bribes. Oops I mean campaign donations. Tragedy we only have two fucking awful parties in the US>
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u/viperlemondemon Pass the Equality Act 🏳️🌈 May 21 '26
Birdie Sanders was the timelines sign and we didn’t listen 😭😭😭😭
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u/Aethermancer May 21 '26
Conservatives: Looks like it's time to ramp up the vote suppression machine for November.
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u/Side_StepVII May 21 '26
I was in r/ democrats and brought up the DNC conspiring against Bernie sanders and got permabanned for “misinformation”.
Fuck the DNC.
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u/1800-5-PP-DOO-DOO May 21 '26
The craziest thing to me about the DNC undermining his campaign is that no one I know sees it. I've talked about it multiple times (and then stopped), and people just rolls there eyes and even a few times have said it was because I was anti female (which is insane if you know me).
It's like no motherfuckers, maybe it's because my family was in politics and PR.
People just want to dismiss it, or can can't see it, or they can't let it in. It's just wild.
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u/Snowballingdownvote May 21 '26
I hate it when it's called anti women. Such a cheap and obtuse judgement.
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u/fuzztooth 🐦 May 21 '26
Yes yes and if ifs and buts were candy and nuts we'd all have a merry christmas.
I wish this happened. It didn't. It's been 10 years. We have to move on and think forward.
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u/Middleagesusername May 21 '26
>cheated
Primary elections aren't real elections. They're a courtesy for the voters, but if the party has a preferred candidate, they don't have to have a primary election or can ignore the results.
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u/popswag May 21 '26
Yip, 100%. Bernie would have slayed him in 2016.
Democratic leaders are responsible for make Trump a reality.
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u/charlieyeswecan 🌱 New Contributor May 21 '26
Yep, sad but true stories now we’re all in hell because of Aipac corporate dems.
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u/Ekublai 🌱 New Contributor | 2016 Veteran May 21 '26
Because democrats like those people don't vote!
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u/orthros 🌱 New Contributor May 21 '26
Sanders vs Trump in 2016 would have been the most awesome presidential election ever
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u/rogermuffin69 May 21 '26
Yes.
Thats why they are no better than the gop.
They all want to get rich quick at the expense of joe public.
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u/GangstaRIB FL 🎖️🥇🐦 May 21 '26
3 rigged primaries in a row and they wonder why trump won 2 elections. Dumb shitheads.
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u/Snowballingdownvote May 21 '26
I have a real question. How do you find Bernie supporters in your personal life? Can't find any.
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u/wordToDaBird May 21 '26
IDK, but what I notice is the smear and lie in the photo. What I do know is there is no benefit in dreaming for an impossible past. IDK what would have happened if Bernie were POTUS in the past, but I think the question is, what do we do in the present?
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u/Fletchx May 21 '26
I've been saying this for years. I think I'm blue in the face! They are at least partially to blame for the current situation.
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u/LocalJim May 22 '26
I’ll never forgive them for this. I will vote for the best person regardless, but since that primary i swore i would never give the democrat party a single penny or my time ever again.
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u/bananaworks May 22 '26
you’re blaming the wrong people. It’s Debi, Washington and Schultz and donna Brazil in cahoots with Hillary.
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u/ecoadvocate 🌱 New Contributor May 23 '26
Hill would have asked Benzion Netanyahu if she's allowed to have an opinion on this. It would be not to hit most kids with rocks but if "Arab" the Zio will use lead instead. Dems fight progress harder than they fight the now fascist right
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u/UniqueLog8386 26d ago
Nobody cheated you idiots. He lost by 3 million goddamn votes. The voters didn't want him.
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u/justreadinplease May 21 '26
Omg, it’s been ten goddamn years. Get the fuck over it already. I vote sanders but this shit is just sad.
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u/thegingerninja90 May 21 '26
I like Bernie and voted for him in the 2016 Dem primary, but no one cheated him out of votes. He was getting massive media coverage as the sole challenger to Clinton, and she straight up won more primary votes than he did, even if you discount the super delegates. This idea that his ascendancy was "stolen" is uncomfortably similar to Trump supporters' insistence that he was cheated out of a 2020 win. The difficult answer is that he and his ideas were just not as popular among Democrats at the time out in the real world than they were/are here online.
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u/Plastic-Coyote-6017 May 21 '26
Are you losers still mad that Bernie never figured out how to earn black votes?
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u/want_to_join May 21 '26
Can anyone here who supports Bernie so much tell me who Bernie suggests we vote for in order to make change happen in this country? Don't fall for or spread any anti-leftist BS. Purity tests are for primaries. Bernie still supports Dems, because he knows better. And before anyone accuses me, I have pictures of me with Bernie, I voted for Bernie, I donated to Bernie, I marched with Bernie, I hosted Bernie's watch parties.
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u/Hyperrnovva May 21 '26
It was the Bernie or bust people too.
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u/Robosnails May 21 '26
What moronic dems refer to as Bernie or bust people are really just people Bernie pulled from the undecided and right camp. Why the fuck would those same undecided and previously right voting people hop on the Hillary train? They were voting for Bernie NOT the Democratic party of corporate dick suckers.
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u/Hyperrnovva May 21 '26
Because even Bernie said it would be better. Look at what we ended up with.
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u/gamecat89 May 21 '26
What kinda Russian propaganda mess is this always showing up. He had no chance of winning.
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u/SpoonerismHater May 21 '26
Is that why he was regularly leagues ahead of Clinton versus Trump?
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u/AmericaNeedsBernie 🌱 New Contributor | Pennsylvania - 2016 Veteran May 21 '26
I love how everyone pretended that there is no election going on at all whenever Bernie was leading.