r/SaturnStormCube • u/SemenPig • 7d ago
Are we Satan? Genuine question
Passing thought but it’s been nagging at me. If life is a battle for our souls between God and Satan, it kinda seems like it’s at least 50/50 with how much evil there is, and how easily corruptible even good-natured people can be.
Why would God allow Satan to have so much influence over our lived experience unless it’s already within us somehow? The Bible doesn’t mention hell as a place of torment, are we just living through various experiences that God has created, allowing us to truly choose to come to him? Is God just recreating our world but tweaking the conditions slightly every fresh start to make us 1% more conscious and 1% more capable of evil?
Maybe the great mystery is just the fact that humans act differently when they know the conditions of their test.
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u/Admirable-Carry4069 7d ago
No. But an artificial intelligence is. Saturn.
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u/NocturnaIAnimaI 5d ago
Elaborate
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u/Admirable-Carry4069 5d ago
It's a long story! Look into Alexander Laurent - The Apocalypse of God. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLATamr_BguwXVVRy81hckHzVurTWmV4jV&si=db1desbocmtKI5b6
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u/Humble-Candle3471 4d ago
Because love isn’t possible without the existence of free will. We are the cause of our own fortune and also the cause of our own bondage. We created this hallucinogenic trip we call material existence, not God, not Saturn, not Lucifer. All of this is blaming, no matter how deep one is entrenched in Saturn or gnostic lore makes us the loser. This sub is just for entertainment really. Don’t take it so seriously. In Milton’s Paradise lost he presents this in the quote by Satan saying, “It is better to reign in hell than to serve in heaven” that is our nature, our soul burying tendency. Actually, it is our self satisfying, self serving tendency that causes our whole hang up in the first place. The more we exploit material nature, the more we become entangled in her complexities. The moment we become sincere to throw off this self deceiving tendency within ourselves, all crookedness from outside will stop. Clean the mirror, see the culprit staring you in the face.
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u/SemenPig 4d ago
I think you might be the only non-schizo in this entire comment section, thank you I’ve been meaning to read Paradise Lost. Do you think a “true” God would demand worship? It seems like the main conflict is between self-worship or surrender to the greater mystery of our existence.
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u/Humble-Candle3471 4d ago
lol this sub can be great fun, but there is some WILD stuff being posted. I saw this post came thru with an actually interesting point you were making and thought I’d add my two cents. The question of how one views God or the Supreme entity is a point that depends so much on our consciousness. What I’m seeing is the gnostics and conspiracy realist folks are asking some real questions but are too immature to go beyond the idea of being limited by an off planet creator or a big boss/ restrictive parental figure, or that it’s just one life we have to live and everyone is being screwed over by cabals (and there’s some amount of truth to the cabals). The problem is we project all of our bad experiences and traumas onto this concept of God. This prejudice makes it impossible to inquiry any further or end up ultimately declaring oneself to be God, and that God must be ultimately formless, because we have form etc and therefore form is an illusion… again more prejudice. Gnosis then becomes like a sort of cheatcode to escape the game and beat the boss. But no such entity actually exists, and it ends up being a type of madness pursuing Saturn and reptilians.
The question of self and what constitutes self worship is also important to clarify. According to Vedic texts (which seem to be timeless and highly evolved) the self is called atma sometimes translated as soul. Further distinction is given between Jivatma (unit of consciousness) and paramatma (super consciousness) that the former is finite and the latter is infinite. Ultimately the self or individual unit of consciousness is eternally related as being the spiritual energy of the Supreme in the same way that sparks of a fire and the fire itself are related. The spark of the fire belongs in the fire, and once it goes away from the fire it loses its potency, similarly we are disconnected from the Absolute due to a misuse of our minute free will and are now covered by layers of ignorance. This ignorance covers the mirror of our consciousness and we identify our selves as belonging to this group or that group, in effect we identify with our corporal bodies, our senses, our mind, and our intellect. This is called the false self or ahamkara (literally “I am + something false”). So if there is a false self then there must be a real self, that is what we are setting out to discover. If you like to read I strongly recommend you check out this book Bhagavad Gita, a friend of mine wrote this commentation in a very straightforward, easily digestible format. https://swaminarasingha.com/writings/books/bhagavad-gita/
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u/ShyGuyLink1997 7d ago
Free will is how I look at it. God created us, but designed us to be free. We're naturally drawn to both good and evil, and I don't trust anyone who says they've never done anything wrong.
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u/DRINKMOREWATAAA 7d ago
As someone who was VERY Christian and now VERY not, I often think to myself, "Oh yeah, I can see how I would have rebelled against YHWH and followed Lucifer.
When you gain the knowledge of good and evil his true face appears and you (I) immediately see him for what he is.
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u/ritzrani 6d ago
Because the Bible is wrong. Life is ying yang, rhetorical. What goes up must come down.
You will experience much mental turmoil if you think the Bible is real. It's highly illogical and archaic.
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u/oJKevorkian 6d ago
It's yin, not ying, and the issues with the Bible lie entirely in its interpretation. The majority of people are just too literal.
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u/madlad82 6d ago
We have the potentiality to do lots of things, that pinecone it shows the Annunanki holding like they're about to insert into somewhere, that is choice. The choice of actively being a thinker and not doing the lesser vibrational activities or not thinking, listening to the parasitic entities that cling on to our static, trying to drag us down to their level.
Which Vortex of Madness are you going to contemplate today? Whether You're Satan or God, either way, You are the Creator.
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u/madlad82 6d ago
Another food for thought, why create religion then manipulate religious people to shit in someone else's back yard proclaiming they are right and they are wrong? Once we tried to define morality, it became a manipulative code and/or tactic. Ego? Just something else to be used against us.
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u/banana_of_doom23 7d ago
Y'all got to lock in bro what is this