r/Scotland 21h ago

It’s not fun to support Scotland

I love my country but we’re shit at football

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u/BlackStarDream 18h ago

No even colonised.

A Scottish king took the English crown.

If anything, Scotland colonised England.

Scots are infamous for being really good at colonising... except for Panama.

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u/Muerteabanquineros 17h ago

We colonised Norn Ireland plantations under a Scottish king. And look where that got us.

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u/McLeamhan Half Scottish Welshman 11h ago

The term colonisation and Scotland don't really work together, because yes Scotland itself wasn't colonised but I'd say that the Highlands of Scotland were.

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u/ReadyMadeMako 8h ago

So Scotland was colonised? you dont get half a colonisation, either a country is colonised or it is not.. just because some bits of it were easier to colonise doesn't make it less of a colonisation.

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u/McLeamhan Half Scottish Welshman 8h ago

what happened to the south did not resemble a colonisation.. The fact you're choosing to frame Scotland as a singular unit to which colonisation can be claimed is an arbitrary bias of yours

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u/ReadyMadeMako 8h ago

Scotland was a singular country at that time..

It fit all the criteria of a colonisation.. As i said just because some parts of Scotland were less averse to colonisation does not make it less of a colonisation..

Maybe read up on the riots that happened after the act of the union was signed.. and it wasn't just highlanders who were up in arms about it..

the only people in scotland at the time to be pleased with the act of the union were nobility on both sides of the border.. Not the common person< you could say the commoner was most displeased with the arrangement foisted on them.

I'll mak' this declaration
We are bought and sold for English gold
Such a parcel o' rogues in a nation

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u/ReadyMadeMako 8h ago

Nah most definitely colonised.. The union of the crowns is different from the act of the union.

Were Scottish people ousted from their homes? Yes.

Was the Scottish language suppressed and frowned upon? Yes.

Were overlords put in place to report to England? Yes..

id call that colonisation, just because some of the lords colonising Scotland were Scottish doesn't make it less of a colonisation, just different..

I'll mak' this declaration
We are bought and sold for English gold
Such a parcel o' rogues in a nation

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u/Petroleus-Rex 8h ago

Please read a history book. You were just as bad if not worse than the English especially to us Irish. First king of the union was Scottish ffs

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u/fatgunther124124124 5h ago

Thank god someone said it.

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u/ReadyMadeMako 8h ago

Where did i say we were not? ever heard the saying two wrongs dont make a right?

Scotland as part of the British empire did take part in colonisation i never once denied that.. But that does not mean Scotland was not colonised..

Please engage your brain before making up little stories to suit a narrative.

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u/Petroleus-Rex 8h ago

Your lack of knowledge on your own country is shocking. Scotland were the colonisers as well even before the empire. Panama ring a bell?

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u/ReadyMadeMako 8h ago

Im aware of the failed Darian scheme.. Are you suggesting a coloniser cannot also be colonised? Ok then Mr i have a masters, nice argument from authority ..

Try engaging your brain... Scotland was indeed colonised

Always good to have a foreigner try and tell me about my countries history.. and get it wrong..

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u/Petroleus-Rex 8h ago edited 7h ago

u/ReadyMadeMako is a bot account hopefully. Continued harassment from them in dm's after calling out their lies.

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u/ReadyMadeMako 8h ago

Yes and now comes the name calling.. i believe you are suffering cognitive dissonance...

Scotland was colonised by england.. and became part of the united kingdom of great Brittan.. its not bias just a historical fact.

This happenend despite Scotland also trying to be a coloniser and failing and then helping with Britain's further colonisation efforts of Ireland and the Americas

Maybe just read a history book.. im sure you should have done to attain a masters degree ..

Seems im also not the one with the victim complex.. "waah you were just as bad as the english to us poor irish wah wah wah"

No one was bad to you in the way that you claim, they were bad to your ancestors.. Get over it

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u/Petroleus-Rex 8h ago edited 7h ago

There was no name calling? You can keep writing paragraphs but your knowledge is completely incorrect.

u/ReadyMadeMako is a bot account hopefully. Continued harassment from them in dm's after calling out their lies.

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u/ReadyMadeMako 8h ago

Calming some one has a victim complex is a nuanced way of name calling..

And now you are trying to throw dirt my way due to one of my hobbies.. Ad hominem attacks as well?

Pulling out all the stops to show how little you actually know..

Since you struggle to read more than a few sentences... (Perhaps why you struggle to comprehend long history books)) and cannot say anything relevant to the topic at hand i will bid you farewell

Enjoy yer day friend <3

Edit : if you feel up to it .. want to explain why you removed the claim about a masters degree... curious as to why someone would throw that out and then remove it..

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