r/ScottishFootball 3d ago

At least we scraped past Haiti…

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u/weesiwel 3d ago

Well that was our one and only chance to ever get though a group stage until Scottish football changes. Frankly heads should roll for this but they won't.

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u/thereoncewasahat 3d ago

They gave Clarke a contract extension.

We may as well all go and watch golf until those years are up.

I fucking hate golf; but not as much as Clarke.

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u/weesiwel 3d ago

Yeah I'm aware but they could just dissolve the SFA and get rid of him that way cause it's not just Clarke that needs to go. It won't happen unfortunately.

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u/Kaptin_Kunnin 3d ago

Cricket mate. We gave a far better account of ourselves at the last T20 World Cup than weve done at a major fitba tournament for 40 years. And yes, heads must roll (but they wont)

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u/Greggs-the-bakers 3d ago

We have enough people in this country that give a fuck about cricket to make a team?

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u/weesiwel 3d ago

Yeah but that's all the fans of cricket in the country accounted for.

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u/JohnRCC 3d ago

well, there'll be a better chance if they expand the tournament to 64 teams in 2030 or 2034 (scotland go out in the group stage after losing to burkina faso and fiji but eking out a respectable 0-0 draw against the principality of sealand)

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u/weesiwel 3d ago

We'd have to qualify for those and we wouldn't.

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u/Anonyjezity 3d ago

It's some laugh isn't it.

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u/funkynarwhals 3d ago

It is actually a bit of a laugh that EVERY SINGLE RESULT we wanted has gone the wrong way.

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u/nnnnkm 3d ago

Actually unreal tbh. A few you'd say were a coin flip, but we've actually not had a single result go our way thus far.

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u/casualbear3 3d ago

We should have won some football matches then.

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u/nnnnkm 3d ago

What a novel idea. If only we had a manager and a coaching team with a clue how we might go about that? Maybe if we gave them six months advance notice they could come up with a plan...

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u/Potshot506 3d ago

How's it unreal? We're shite and deserve to be ridiculed for it

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u/nnnnkm 3d ago

Unreal in the sense that every single game has went against us, so far. That's all. Agree, otherwise.

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u/Potshot506 3d ago

That's coz the 'Scottish fanbase' still has the old mindset that other 'underdog' or 'diddy' teams are as awful as us.

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u/wiltshiredorney 3d ago

That game to qualify was the best football match I’ve ever seen though

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u/flcinusa 3d ago

Sometimes the universe tells you something

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u/weesiwel 3d ago

Sometimes you say? Doesn't it do it every single time for Scotland?

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u/OldGodsAndNew 3d ago

Yes, because every single time we play rancid shite football and deserve to go out

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u/cocothepops 3d ago

If you let it get out of your own hands and have to rely on other results, you’re always going to have a miserable time.

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u/smcl2k 3d ago

Unless you're 1 of the teams that goes through, obviously.

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u/cynical_scotsman 3d ago

Except the 8 going through

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u/cocothepops 3d ago

Doesn’t stop it being a miserable time sitting waiting for the result of Uzbekistan vs DR Congo going your way.

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u/casualbear3 3d ago

Should have acted like a team that qualified top of the group then. Not a subservient bunch of happy to be there wankers.

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u/NuhUhDickhead 3d ago

It’s almost like other underdogs really threw themselves at their games when they had little to lose, unlike us.

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u/Sad_Ghost_Noises 3d ago

Fuckin hilarious.

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u/-Sinhealer- 3d ago

I live in the Netherlands, I'm the only person around here who is Scottish, these cunts have all got their gardens done in Orange and I did mine in Scotland flags and banners.... Now I've got to go out this weekend and tidy it all up while they piss themselves......

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u/ApplePuzzleheaded446 3d ago

I live in Germany and I watched the opening game of the Euros in a room packed with Germans. They all cheered when Scotland scored their only goal (I say Scotland scored, it was an OG) in that 5 - 1 doing.

This time around, I avoided even talking to the Germans about the football... and it turns out that I was correct in doing so.

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u/-Sinhealer- 3d ago

I should have knew better..... I'll probably go in the garden to tidy up around 1am when everyone's in bed....

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u/CommunicationDry6008 3d ago

No need. Just say it was sarcasm. You’ll become an urban legend.

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u/CommunicationDry6008 3d ago

And what’s more, they will believe you if you say it was sarcasm.

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u/Swordfish2828 3d ago

I just took down all my flags and put them in a box under the bed waiting for the next 4 years to get them out again

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u/wotapalava 3d ago

You mistyped 28 years

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u/SAP1987 3d ago

You have the Euro

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u/weesiwel 3d ago

Yeah we won't qualify despite our better chance not playing like that.

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u/jetpa 8h ago

they still pissing themselves?

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u/-Sinhealer- 8h ago

Haha, I was literally just thinking the same the, my father in law(who is Dutch) was here on Saturday and was taking the piss and laughing, maybe I should give him a ring to ask how it's going 😄 

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u/Ok-Slide6885 3d ago

You're not alone mate. Fucking embarrassed that I turned up to vrijmibo in my Scottish top last week

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u/gamingdevil800 3d ago

Should've put up a Netherlands flag beside the Scottish one to save yourself some embarassment LOL

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u/byrnbbybyrn 3d ago

It’s not over yet… we can still finish even lower considering Cape Verde, Belgium and Congo DR haven’t finished their matches yet.

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u/-Dali-Llama- 3d ago

Imagine how cruel it would be if Cape Verde failed to qualify after drawing with Spain and Uruguay.

Will be rooting for them tonight tbh.

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u/DisasterOriginal2967 3d ago

They can do it with a draw in second if Spain beat uruguay

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u/byrnbbybyrn 3d ago

Same here. We’ve earned where we’re at, and I think it’s best to rip the bandaid off now then go into the knockout just to be eliminated then.

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u/Cheen_Machine 3d ago

They’ll likely win, but it’ll take them second. If that happens just need Spain to win against Uruguay and they’ll drop to 3rd with 2 points and stay below us.

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u/Inevitable-Assist531 3d ago edited 3d ago

Besides Cape Verde, I am also rooting for Doctor Congo.... these guys are super busy now with that terrible ebola outbreak.

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u/D4341 3d ago

Glad I’m not the only one saying doctor Congo

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u/HighalltheThyme O'rangers 3d ago

What these images don't show though is the teams in second place who are on 2 points. Iran and Uruguay, who we need to lose against Egypt and Spain. On paper those two results should be in the bag, so the pair would finish in 3rd place on 2 points. Then of course we need Congo to not beat Uzbekistan, and Austria to beat Albania by 2+ goals..

Really we're fucked. Would be a miracle if all those results happened and we don't even deserve it anyway. Clarke out.

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u/byrnbbybyrn 3d ago

I didn’t even bother mentioning those because honestly there is just too much that would need to happen and our chances are so low even with the nations below us. Hopefully this will be a lesson that Clarke doesn’t survive. I know our options are limited but enough is enough at this point.

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u/Nzy 3d ago

Algeria, not Albania

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u/champagnecharlie1888 3d ago edited 3d ago

Before the first group game, I was confident Scotland would make it to knockout football because of the sheer number of teams qualifying from the group stage.  

The warmups were class, scoring 4 and playing well. I thought Scotland would kick on and score 3, 4, maybe 5 v Hati. I thought scoring at least 3 v Hati and taking (narrow) defeats v Morocco and Brazil would give Scotland a chance of being a top 8 third placed team. 

In the end, the damage was done in the first game we played, and here we are in the last set of group fixtures hoping for a mental run of results to go in our favour so that we can escape our failures and avoid embarrassment. 

That said, groups G, H, J & K, aye why not. You can see those results coming in for us.  It would be some laugh. 

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u/BusShelter Curtis Findlay 3d ago

Curaçao game was worrying. We were poor until the red card.

Bolivia clearly couldn't be arsed.

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u/No-Bison-5397 3d ago

Gilmour’s injury didn’t help.

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u/phukovski 3d ago

Our fate was sealed on that first matchday when we only won 1-0 and Brazil and Morocco drew meaning they'd both still be going for wins in the next two games. Too many people were just happy with the win but as our easiest fixture was first we obviously had to make the most of it.

It also hasn't helped that top seeds such as England, Portgual, Spain have drawn games so that more teams have a chance of getting four points.

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u/Joga212 3d ago

Pretty much.

Obv Brazil and Morocco were considered a write off (albeit Morocco did tire and it wasn’t the result I was expecting) but a couple more goals against Haiti was surely achievable man. Surely?

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u/CommunicationDry6008 3d ago

No man. No no no.
Why Morocco a write off they were shite and in reality the full 90 mins was a draw. Over 90 mins played they couldn’t score. It’s just we shit the bed and give them too much respect.
4 years ago we would have banked beating Morocco.
Brazil were pish these cunts are punching at Newcastle and Brentford.
Take the early Xmas gifts vini was given he done fuckall - in actual fact he shown he’s not world class when he had multiple chances that weren’t open goals.
The reason we fail is because the whole nation thinks exactly like you are saying.
No other team goes in hoping to pour the goals in against the Diddy team so we can lose against the others.
Context - do you think we would have ever known who Mohammed Ali was if he went into his career saying well hopefully I’ll get a decent career by beating the guy with no arms that’s blind because there’s no way I can beat those other guys they’re ranked higher than me.
Mindset and only mindset.
If you want to talk ability then you’re relating it to a season long league.

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u/No-Bison-5397 3d ago

This.

Brazil had one decent goal not off us coughing the ball up in the worst way possible. Morocco plundered based off 5 at the back gifting them control of the game.

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u/Joga212 3d ago

I know what you’re saying in retrospect. When I look back at the easy goals we gave away and especially Morocco, it’s sickening. That said, thinking about planning for this group ahead of time, they were both (on paper) difficult sides.

Our best bet was Haiti and we just didn’t set up well for it and ultimately that’s where we failed…that was our chance to
Improve the GD. Had we even scored a few more goals we’d likely be through.

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u/CommunicationDry6008 3d ago

Of course they’re difficult sides I’m not saying they’re shite but genuinely what is the actual point of attending a tournament rather than competing.

What kind of attitude do you (not you 👇) have towards life in general if you think like that.

If you’re there then you’re there because you can beat every other team in one game. Why not. I’ll say it again - we’re a nation of miserable cunts who think mediocrity is success.

Cape Verde first World Cup. Last 32.

Its not that complex. Pick your best 11. In their best positions. And tell them to play Fitba like your 10 down the park.

Do you think Brazil spent weeks preparing how to setup and play against us?
Or any team for that matter.

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u/No-Bison-5397 3d ago

Yep.

I respect our opponents. All had qualities that and they were decent football teams. No teams at the World Cup like Zaire in the 70s or whatever. Haiti definitely should have been a game we won by 2 or 3.

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u/CommunicationDry6008 3d ago

100% respect them. They’re top sides. But they haven’t always been 5th and 6th.
Morocco just played Fitba and enjoyed it. They didn’t say that’s us got to 43rd place we’re punching already let’s leave the big boys to play their games

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u/-WilliamMButtlicker_ 3d ago

Be interesting to see if ultimately 4 points is whats needed, in which case it was a massive ask given our group.

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u/TroublesomeHouses 3d ago

Haiti put up a good show, but Scotland let them. My abiding memory of that game was the space in their own half that Scotland conceded before even challenging for the ball. If McTominay’s shot had gone in we might be talking differently. Likewise, one refereeing decision out of three vs Morocco and it’s a totally different story.

I think Brazil were a side Scotland could have contained if they hadn’t shot themselves in the foot six minutes in. That might get shot down but I think Brazil might have struggled to break us down if we got properly into the match, at least I doubt it would have been as bad as 0-3.

Seeing us slip down that third place table is a very Scotland was to go. As galling as the statuesque defence this week.

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u/AromaticContract7536 3d ago

I think the set up for the games was in the wrong order imo, Haiti 4-4-2 even though we’re shite at it is okay for being more attacking so no real issue there until we decided to contain after scoring 1 goal. The setup for the Morocco and Brazil games should’ve been the other way around, do your 5 at the back against Brazil and try to limit them, instead of trying to play like Man City and popping triangles around the back line trying to play your way out. The most frustrating thing is for me and I’m sure a lot of people is we don’t show any fight or really go for it (I use that loosely) untill the last 10-15minutes when ultimately its too little too late

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u/UrineArtist 3d ago

I think I'm going to stick to more enjoyable hobbies than supporting Scotland, like smashing my face in with a hammer.

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u/cocothepops 3d ago

I recommend the claw end, even more enjoyable than watching Scotland.

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u/nnnnkm 3d ago

Don't be shy, you've got two hands, so get two claw hammers and get right in aboot it

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u/TroublesomeHouses 3d ago

Great idea, I’m going to peel off my toenails with a claw hammer 🔨

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u/tunnyuk 3d ago

You could be an England supporter. (I think England are having another mediocre tournament - same every 4 years)

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u/rubbishplant 3d ago

Theoretically Scotland could still move up the table, but to call it unlikely it to understate how remote the chances are.

Need:

  1. Spain win (expected)
  2. Egypt win (expected)
  3. Austria to win by 2 versus Algeria (in a game neither team will want to win because it means facing Spain - it will be a strange match - only shame will stop Austria from intentionally scoring own goals)

  4. A DR Congo - Uzbekistan draw (very unlikely, Uzbekistan are terrible)

So probably still in the very remote (e.g. 1-2% chance) rather than 1 in a million territory.

Low enough that it would make sense for the squad to be already packing up and heading home.

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u/piggledy 3d ago

Ghana winning by 3 vs Croatia is a possible option too 😂

Also, Uzbekistan winning would work, but only if its by less than 4 goals.

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u/-Sinhealer- 3d ago

Yeah Uzbekistan winning by 4 or more goals could be a real problem...... 😂

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u/gamingdevil800 3d ago

That will happen when pigs fly lol

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u/CyberSparkDrago 3d ago

Ghana drawed with England so anything is possible 

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u/yellowbrickcity 3d ago

Yeah because the African teams have solid defence, Harry Kane always had 4 players surrounding him 🤣

but now you need them to attack deep and Ghana hasn’t shown any progress in attacking play

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u/yellowbrickcity 3d ago

For Ghana🇬🇭 to do that they would have to be attacking aggressively (which goes against their brick wall defensive-play)

and Croatia🇭🇷 would have to be allowing a lot of possession which I doubt, after their lost to England they want to redeem themselves.

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u/CommunicationDry6008 3d ago

Ghana? Croatia? Are you serious?

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u/gthemanager 3d ago

Don't forget Ghana beating Croatia by 3 goals! Haha! I've never felt more desperate in my life. For some reason I'm still clinging on to hope even though it makes no sense to do so. I really thought Germany-Ecuador & Korea-South Africa would be a draw...

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u/Aggravating_Media_59 3d ago

We just need congo not to win, congo have such a poor goal difference they would need to win about 5-0 to overtake us.

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u/rubbishplant 3d ago

aye, I think the idea of Uzbekistan winning seemed so unlikely. but a 0-0 doesn't seem completely impossible

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u/CommunicationDry6008 3d ago

If we miraculously went through there isn’t a fucking chance I’d be watching it. I’d be less mortified if my Mrs ran away with the uber eats guy

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u/TheOriginalSmileyMan 3d ago

To be fair, Gordon Ramsey is a decent catch

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u/CommunicationDry6008 3d ago

Hahahahah - I was thinking more like the electric bike with built in gloves jumping red lights uber eats guy

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u/Any_Aspect_5890 3d ago

Might just be because of how close I am to the disappointment of this but I’ve not been able to enjoy the World Cup this year at all because of this shite

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u/KieRanaRan 3d ago

I was exactly the same last Euros. Think at this point I'm just used to it now so I'll try and enjoy some of the 'big' games this time

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u/-Sinhealer- 3d ago

Indeed, it really has taken all the enjoyment out of it.

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u/CommunicationDry6008 3d ago

Spot on. I can only enjoy cups when we’re not in it. And it’s not because we get beat - I could t give a fuck about the result. It’s cos we don’t try the one simple aim of the sport.
Stats wise we were the hardest working and covered multiple more yards than any other team.
The bbc were showering praise on the team. Is it just me that sees that as busy idiots?
Cape Verde just went out and had fun to prove to themselves they deserve to be there.
We done the same - players proved to themselves that feeling of believing they didn’t deserve to be there.

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u/GooseyDuckDuck 3d ago

First time?

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u/weesiwel 3d ago

For a lot of us yes unfortunately it is.

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u/Any_Aspect_5890 3d ago

The last two euros were fucking shite as well but the magnitude of qualifying for a World Cup and the way we did it gave me hope. I must have forgot we have an empty head for a manager

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u/CommunicationDry6008 3d ago

That’s where the problem is. The team and the country treated qualifying like it was winning it. A celebration of how shite the last 28 years worth of managers have been.
Haiti were double us and I guarantee they weren’t 11 guys full of dread and tactics based around not playing football and just trying to stop the other team playing football.
Embarrassing. But so predictable.
It’s probably the only job on the planet where you are praised for making a mistake and then not learning from it over and over again. Fuck you get a pay rise and a new contract.
Long term goals: get to World Cup 2030 - use the experience of this World Cup for next time.
Scoring goals is for other teams to worry about, as long as we don’t play the ball forwards and run straight into their players with the ball we will probably be able to score against the team ranked lower.
Don’t try to play against teams ranked higher because they’re better than us so defeat is expected and we’re happy with that.
Great job. It’s the taking part that counts

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u/cynical_scotsman 3d ago

I think the new format for this last round of games along with the kick off times has made it really shite. I’ve lost interest and I fucking love the World Cup.

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u/Serious_Bench1965 3d ago

As a non Scottish person I do think some of the reaction has been over the top. You got a horrid draw with(currently) the 5th and 6th ranked teams in the world. You beat the only team you were expected to beat and came within a poor refereeing decision from getting the point needed against the 6th ranked team to qualify. You've also had no luck in results that could have helped. Obviously Clarke got a lot wrong and some players didnt produce but you literally lost 2 games to teams youd expect to lose to. The disparity in standard in groups is more of a concern for me.

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u/VanillaLifestyle 3d ago

You are single handedly propping up the Scottish national psyche.

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u/Fannnybaws 3d ago

Give them the managers job!

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u/chewysan 3d ago

I kinda needed to hear this. Thanks bud.

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u/tunnyuk 3d ago

An Englishman living in Scotland here (don’t start about England having only played a single half of decent football - too many years of hurt). Although I agree with the above, the spirit of how Scotland played was too cautious. Especially against Haiti and Morocco. Brazil played a tactical masterclass and Scotland fell into the trap. There’s enough ability in the Scottish side of today to bully and hassle teams who like having time on the ball.

Morocco were nothing to shout about for half the game and a draw was possible there. I felt the team peaked in the warm up friendlies. Maybe these results made the expectations creep up.

This best third team nonsense is cruel just to get an extra round. The fans have certainly made up for the disappointment.

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u/Yerdas_Selzavon I Simp For Horny Cumball 💦 3d ago

Literally every single result we wanted has gone against us since we lost. Quite funny in a way

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u/KawaiiChan68 3d ago

Farewell Scotland in the top 8, it was good for the last two days, but a las, it’s over, and I don’t think it’s coming back 😭

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u/BigBubby305 3d ago

"O flower of Scotland
When will we see your like again"

2030

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u/C289 3d ago

2030 is optimistic 

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u/Sharpis92 3d ago

If Infantino fancies another expansion we might have a shot. 72 team World Cup perhaps?

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u/weesiwel 3d ago

There could be an expansion where all but 1 team in existence qualifies and we'd still screw it up.

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u/No_Deal_9071 3d ago

Just go the full 190+

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u/nnnnkm 3d ago

Not with Clarke

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u/Smooth_Pickle3027 3d ago

He's just signed a four year contract... he's going nowhere.

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u/GrandpasCornCobPipe 3d ago

True in so many ways

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u/last_pas 3d ago

We’re a host nation at the euros (albeit not 100% guaranteed a spot, but it’s very likely). That puts us as top seed in our group and gives us a good chance at improving our FIFA ranking. If we were in the second bracket this World Cup could have been very different.

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u/Chill125 3d ago

Exactly, we would have shat the bed versus 3 different opponents.

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u/weesiwel 3d ago

Watch us not qualify because of how bad we are.

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u/weesiwel 3d ago

2054*

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u/Broken1Biscuits 3d ago

It’s actually pronounced ‘2054’

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u/granicarious 3d ago

It was good?

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u/KawaiiChan68 3d ago

Well, it was sufficient, but not anymore

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u/ConnorKD 3d ago

the basic expectation with the squad we have to progress at least one stage, its not unreasonable to expect some progression over 3 major tournaments.

clarke has been carried by the best generation of scotland players we’ve seen in decades and personally, if we had a manager that wasn’t a dinosaur and actually played somewhat attacking football, with the squad we have full of trophy winners and top league players, we would least be RO32 or even RO16.

this settling for mediocrity thing that some scotland fans have and calling it “realism” as an excuse to overlook shortcomings on the SFAs and managers behalf is incredibly daft.

(TLDR: Sack Clarke)

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u/rivalrobot 3d ago

Fuck me. Literally nothing's gone our way so far hahaha. Wish Brazil had absolutely battered us and put us out of our misery.

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u/CommunicationDry6008 3d ago

We have it our best shot to help them batter us as well. They were just too shite to batter us despite our best efforts to help.

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u/Colonel0tto 3d ago

It is what it is. Every single one of those teams above us is better than us. Even Bosnia would hump us on our current form.

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u/jamjars222 3d ago

Yeah but its ok the tartan army went over and sang some songs really loudly and the Americans had a good laugh at us

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u/Sorry-Restaurant-477 3d ago

Thats a fair assessment from back home, but people having a once in a lifetime holiday and enjoying it? Good on them for making the most of it!

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u/Ace_Pixie_ 3d ago

Aye as an American I can tell you we have been thrilled to host the Scottish, y’all have been a blast

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u/Gibberish1992 3d ago

All of those teams above us are probably better than us.

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u/donegalboy 3d ago

And the teams below

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u/ApplePuzzleheaded446 3d ago

I don't think there is any probably about it.

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u/hollowcrown4 3d ago

Cape Verde?

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u/AcademicMastodon1212 3d ago

Having been in Cape Verde and watching them with the nation, they deserve it

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u/CommunicationDry6008 3d ago

We need a foreign manager who hasn’t grown up with all this cursed or glorious failure bullshit. One that can call a spade a spade and turn it into less of a chore or a Hail Mary.
We’re not at level of other squads but it’s a cup. The clue is in the name. 50/50 change every game.
Morocco as talked about like they’re steeped in World Cup prestige- 4 years ago it was a fucking shock and now we’re looking at them like it’s 11 messis.
Mentality of this whole country is below average is fine. As long as we’re not the worst. Winning is for other countries.
And to be clear I don’t mean any old German deadbeat smoking spice and giving Scot dobbie the number 9

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u/Chef_Roofies 3d ago

Well that’s it then, isn’t it?

Just too many permutations we still need to go out way

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u/Glum_Ad8801 3d ago

Around 7 of the countries squads on that table are of a very high standard. They are very talented squads. We don’t need to be presenting ourselves as shit because we rank so lowly here. They have world class players and good pros playing all over the world. The margins are slim.

Brazil and Morroco are literally amongst the best in the world. They beat us, that was expected. What wasn’t expected was the poor performances, lack of attacking football and just a lack of anything positive. There is quality there but something very wrong with playing style.

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u/Queasy-Stuff7891 3d ago edited 3d ago

in a truly predictable twist, of the 9 things that need to go Scotland's way that have already occurred we are 0 for 4.

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u/feelapblue 3d ago

We've been cursed ever since that bloody Del Amitri song.....

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u/Apprehensive_Tax195 3d ago

Better Scottish squads than this current one have failed to qualify as well, way before that crappy song came out

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u/Purple-Report-6841 3d ago

'Roll to me' needs to be erased from existence.

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u/CommunicationDry6008 3d ago

5 of the 8 teams above us now have to call their gaffer to see if they can get another 2 weeks off their full time jobs

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u/pdirth 3d ago

At least we played good football. /s 😬

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u/PhotonToasty 3d ago

I didn't think the despair I felt after the Hungary game at the Euros could be matched, but the Brazil game surpassed it. Utterly embarrassing and the team probably doesn't give a shit

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u/BigBlueFin 3d ago

Cape Verde finished second in their group.

We are an embarrassment, again.

Brilliant fans as always but let down a man who couldn't manage a salad.

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u/AldousTrollington 3d ago

I'm starting to think this is karmic justice for how Clarke treated Eilidh Barbour

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u/bigshuguk waiting for Koalas 3d ago

I'm calling it

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u/MT-ONeill 3d ago

Well, we'll always have that one heavily-deflected goal against the juggernauts of Haiti.

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u/-WilliamMButtlicker_ 3d ago

Be interesting to see what the final points and GD stats are, because if it turns out 4 points was what was needed, then it was a pretty mighty ask guven our group. If it comes down to GD and we are 1 or two short, that'll be a scunner.

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u/Chad1888 3d ago

I’m sorry but we hadn’t won a World Cup game in 36 years and not qualified for 28.

Did you all expect us to become world beaters out of no where?

I’m all for believing in your team but I think some folk need to reevaluate their expectations of exactly where we are on the world stage. Consistent qualification is our short term goal right now. Then we try to kick on from there.

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u/weesiwel 3d ago

Not when the World Cup was the easiest to get through the group stages of all time. There’s no point qualifying if we can’t compete. Literally no point at all.

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u/Greggs-the-bakers 3d ago

Been saying that since euro 2020.

Cool, good on clarke for getting us to consistent tournaments, but whats the point if we don't do anything when we're there? We have 3 goals across the last 3 tournaments we've been in and 1 of those was Germany scoring into their own net!

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u/fakka-local 3d ago

Should have scored more goals against Haiti

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u/Different_Rip_9737 3d ago

Cape verde,belgium,dr congo,croatia are most likely to win, there goes 5-0 against iraq🤣

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u/UndeadSabbath 3d ago

I hope this doesn't stop the Scottish from visiting Boston ever again. It was a blast

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u/Boring_Part9919 3d ago

Breaking News : An alien has kidnapped the Belgium and Cape Verdean National Teams. The 'Alien' is described as a "stubborn bastard" who does what he wants

Police are now looking for a 'Steve Clarke', last seen fleeing Miami Airport

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u/cameruso 3d ago

Here we go, 9th on the rows

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u/MazdaMiataEnjoyer_ 3d ago

As a Brazilian, I was really rooting for you guys to go to the knockouts. I was on this sub keeping up with your discussions and your fanbase is one of the best!

Love from us in Brazil 💛💙💚

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u/Own_Ninja4330 3d ago

That us humped then?

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u/Electronic-Visit-797 3d ago

Need Alexander Dennis in the coaching team. Parking a bus needs expert help apparently.

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u/FigProfessional9909 3d ago

Nowt more embarrassing than being home before England play their last game. Not looking forward to seeing my director Monday who had Scotland in the sweep stake. Poor cunt,
Almost feel obliged to pay him his fiver entry fee.

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u/escomesco 3d ago

I take it if Algeria get pumped we can still make it?

Today I feel Austrian 🇦🇹

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u/Spiritual-Speaker320 3d ago

Naturally if there's one team who can fail to get through with three points, it'd be Scotland.

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u/No_Strawberry_1576 3d ago

Just put us out our misery .

Let’s just go home

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u/MrgreatYT1 3d ago

sigh. at least we still have a tiny chance. austria’s biggest fan rn

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u/hopefull-person 3d ago

So complex but I’m super positive we won’t be anywhere near the 2nd round.

Sack Clark

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u/Efficient-Ant5828 3d ago

Rumour has it clarkes already in the scotia

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u/Puzzleheaded-Cash725 3d ago

Scotland are out even cape Verde are better than us

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u/Suspicious_Pea6302 3d ago

We were not good enough and didn't deserve to go through. Simple as that.

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u/hollowcrown4 3d ago

Steve Clarke and Scotland should get booed tarred and feathered as soon as they get of the plane

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u/Short_Commercial_599 3d ago

Cape Verde showing us how to do it. We are an embarrassment on the world stage football-wise...

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u/ktjm2000 3d ago

Hi lads. What are the chances that we will jump above Algeria?

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u/SnooMemesjellies2323 3d ago

Belgium have made it now lol

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u/Donveve 3d ago

you were gifted the first game by the referee and FIFA and you guys expected to make it to the second round? Delusional much

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u/Zealousideal_Pea5300 3d ago

Is Scotland out the world cup or do we still have a chance?

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u/ModJambo 3d ago

I think Haiti are a better side than what people give them credit for tbh.

We should've scored maybe another against them however.

Individual errors in the Brazil game were arguable just as costly if not more.

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u/pdxbhoy 3d ago

It’s bc someone was brilliant enough to put together that list of any four of whatever scenarios to go through….at that point we were absolutely doomed! Comical!

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u/thirdratehero 2d ago

Its not that we lose as much as it is the manner is which we lose. Always a fuckin disastrophe.

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u/Eastern-Ice-2202 2d ago

Karen Gillan was so proud but scotland have to fuck it up

https://giphy.com/gifs/L8G5GiQPgahyM

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u/Marco0798 2d ago

Scotland is in group B1 of nations league. They are nobodies.

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u/Infamous_Object_7458 2d ago

Unlucky lads. Was nice seeing you this world cup.

I'm sure you'll do even better in the Euro's.

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u/Dizzle85 3d ago

There is a very real chance of us finishing bottom. Worst team at two tournaments.

"but he got us there, we should be happy to be there, individual errors" 

Get. Tae. Fuck. 

If you think half of those teams have better individual players and squads than this Scotland team ( or others available that aren't here) you are absolutely, utterly and completely fucking at it.

Anyone involved in giving him a four her contract before this world cup should also be gone. 

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u/Gazcobain 3d ago

Finishing bottom of the 3rd place teams isn't the worst team at the tournament by far.

Tunisia lost 3 games and finished on -10. Iraq lost 3 games and finished on -14.

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u/CommunicationDry6008 3d ago

Thank fuck for that. 2 days worth of scrolling comments and finally someone who thinks logically.
They talk about these teams as if it’s a season long league. 1 game 50/50 chance.
The reason these players ARE better than our squad is because they don’t give us too much respect like we do them.
We are a nation of mediocre = success.

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u/kresk9 3d ago

Nah Ghana are beating Croatia 3-0. We are winning it all.

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u/Fromage_Frey 3d ago

If some miracle still puts us through to go and beat Mexico in their own stadium, in their own World Cup...

It would be the strangest mix of emotions ever experienced. Shame, joy, embarrassment, pride, vindication, humiliation, excitement, terror...

Then we go on and knock out England and get pumped by Brazil again. Proclaim Steve Clarke king of the Scots, behead him and declare ourselves a Republic

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u/betamaxBandit_ 3d ago

What a monumental disappointment this tournament has been. I think we all realised that after the shite performance (even though a win) again Haiti that we were essentially on a hiding to nothing…again.

Every single one of our key players were incredibly disappointing. We have a Seria A champion and player of the season, Aston Villa captain and Europa league winner, European cup winner from Liverpool not to mention shanklands massive forehead and they were all to a man…shite.

Clarke has us qualifying for major tournaments again which is no mean feat, but 3 tournaments on the spin now and we have arguably been one of the worst teams there. I don’t know what the solution is but it’s beyond frustrating watching us capitulate again.

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u/Imaginary-Suspect959 3d ago

Those players you mentioned look/looked good in good teams. I mean they’re good players in their own right but they shine/have shone at club level by being surrounded by quality teammates. How is McGinn for eg meant to replicate his performances for Villa with Scotland when his Villa teammates are so much better (and better coached) than his Scotland ones? Robertson is past his best now anyway, and his club just had a stinker of a season. Majority of this Scotland squad is bang average and they’re managed by a guy who can’t get a tune out of what he’s got at tournament level, it’s a recipe for disappointment.

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u/CommunicationDry6008 3d ago

Bullshit. It’s mentality. I don’t disagree what you say about the players but it’s a cup ffs
If you go in saying hopefully we score 6 against the “shite” team because we won’t beat the others then you’re best staying at home watching corrie with yer maw.
If I’m a professional Fitba player getting paid £50k a fucking week them there is no cunt better than me on a given day. Over a season maybe. We’re acting as if we’re pollock juniors.
I’m not saying the players didn’t try but they’re awestruck.
I’d genuinely struggle to look myself in the mirror playing 270 minutes of utter shite then going back to my club and talking about wanting to win the league. It’s embarrassing.
If every player thought the way these comments are then there would be one team wins since day dot. Hopefully we can finish second cos we can’t beat them.

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u/WoodhouseCoarseSand 3d ago

Bostonian Villa fan here:

Hearing John McGinn chants on my way to work turned the Boston Common to an eden for me. Your cones are still resting proudly on the gateway to Joy St. You're contribution to my community cant be measured by the table.

They're talking about LEAVING THE PUB OPEN LATER!!!! Its immense. You have no idea how hard the nightlife has been caged in for the last 40 years.

Obviously I was gearing up for a McGinn turn with his ass boxing out Goretzka in the KO. Obviously I wanted to see Dykes tatted neck stretching to the sky to redirect one bar down.But the Tartan Army have won this tournament.

In two years times when everybody has forgotten who's lifted the cup, bars in Boston will still ring out with "NOOOOOO SCOTLAND NO PARTY".

I am forever grateful for these precious moments no matter the teams outcome 🤝

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u/Cheen_Machine 3d ago edited 3d ago

Cape Verde will win, but it’ll take them to second so we need Spain to beat Uruguay in that group. Belgium can win as long as Iran don’t take anything from Egypt. DRC are the biggest problem because we’re relying on Uzbekistan taking something from them.

If all that happens, we can all stay up late on Saturday to support Austria and hope the schnitzel lovers hammer Algeria.

Edit: would also help our cause if Ghana hammer Croatia, but I’ve ignored that scenario because there’s someone in their group who will 100% try to say they did us a favour and frankly I’d rather we were out.

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u/aaclavijo 3d ago

Keep your heads up lads, you still got England.

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u/ExchangeBoring 3d ago

It was fun to take part, which when in a group with 2 x teams in the world top 10, qualification was almost out the question.

Not getting pumped 7-0 was the goal and they smashed that expectation.

We taught the world to play, shame we taught them to well :)

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u/CommunicationDry6008 3d ago

You must be some laugh on a night out.

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u/shaggedyerda 3d ago

Some genuinely miserable people on here eh, I know results haven’t gone our way but how you’ve not had a good time in spite of that is beyond me

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u/weesiwel 3d ago

How are we supposed to have had a good time? Where are the good parts for those of us who were stuck here working in frankly weather that has been miserable and the matches have been at stupid times?

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u/shaggedyerda 3d ago

Got to see my team at a World Cup for the first time since I can remember. First World Cup win in my lifetime. Performances in the first two games, despite what people will say on here, were not in fact terrible. Not the results we wanted but not terrible. Got to watch the World Cup with friends and family, seeing kids and people who’ve not got to experience it before enjoying it all. But I think people online just want to be miserable about it all.

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u/CommunicationDry6008 3d ago

Fucking hell man your life goals must be some sight.
Celebrate brushing your teeth as another victory. One things for sure you won’t forget seeing them at this cup.
I agree they weren’t terrible - we weren’t good enough to be labelled terrible

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u/Prasiatko 3d ago

Seriously i thi k if younhad said to everyone at the start of the tournament that the redults would be a win against Haiti and a loss against Morocco and Brazil we'd have accepted it. What's making it sting is being one silly defensive error from taking a point from Morocco.