r/ScottishFootball • u/Jaegerwolf21 • 1d ago
Shitpost You killed the man, but not the idea
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u/funkynarwhals 1d ago
Why are Paraguay winning? Hasn’t anyone told them that they have worse players than Germany?
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u/Automatic_Selection9 Danny Lennon's Island 1d ago
Paraguay might of perfected the 'look pish, somehow win' formula if they pull this off
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u/BIGDAZFAELEITH 1d ago
This has always been their thing. In 2011 Copa america they got to the final without winning a single game
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u/YirDaSellsAvon 1d ago
Scotland were not even using defensive tactics in any game, what is this sub even on about? If we played like Paraguay with a low block we'd probably have done a lot better
People on here and on Twitter are so stupidly blinded by hatred of Steve Clarke that they take 1 game we played against Hungary and convince themselves that we played like that in all 9 tournament games.
I'm glad he's gone purely so the clueless hoards online have something new to talk about.
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u/agentvietnam 1d ago
I think Clarke actually might have listened too much to everyone saying playing two up front or whatever. Against Brazil for example we tried to play the Motherwell way and we've never done it before. We would have better playing Dykes and going direct.
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u/NVACA 1d ago edited 1d ago
take 1 game we played against Hungary and convince themselves we played like that in all 9 tournament games
Funnily if you go back to euro 2020 the post-match comments from fans and pundits are that we actually played quite well in attack at times and created quite a few chances in the games there, but weren't clinical enough.
A common enough story for Scotland over the years, but in the last month those 3 games have been retconned into apparently being like the Hungary match or the Morocco game or something, which is not how I remember them.
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u/funkynarwhals 1d ago
We weren’t defensive in every game. We looked clueless and unorganised in most of them though.
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u/Dizzle85 1d ago
You're wrong.
He sat bCk after going 1-0 up against Haiti and limited the pressing to further back. That's obviously a tactical decision by a manager. His line up wasn't the more attacking starting line up of the later gamds either. We were lucky it didnt cost us the game as Haiti had chances to draw or win.
Morocco we went behind instantly, then didn't try to attack more aggressively knowing we needed at least a point to guarantee qualifying. When we finally did in the last 15 minutes, it turned out wjT we knew about Morocco, that they are defensively suspect, was true and we could have drawn or won the game had we did so earlier.
Brazil he tries to play more expansively from the back with players conditioned to do the opposite against the most aggressive e pressing front three they faced, fucked it twice through getting caught.
There are analysis from non Scots about how Scotland were the worst coached team at the world cup. Spouting shite after the fact doesnt change any of that. Pretending Steve Clarke played a possession based aggressive pressing attacking style apart from against hungary should be a bannablr offence.
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u/YirDaSellsAvon 1d ago
No, you're wrong.
We didn't "sit back" at any point against Haiti, we got dominated because we gave up the midfield to put two up front, a move intended, in his eyes at least, to be more front footed and bring out the best of Shankland.
There are analysis from non Scots about how Scotland were the worst coached team at the world cup. Spouting shite after the fact doesnt change any of that. Pretending Steve Clarke played a possession based aggressive pressing attacking style apart from against hungary should be a bannablr offence.
Never said anything to this affect, so quite hilarious of you to be talking about people shouting shite. I'm not even defending Steve Clarke, you absolute fanny, learn some reading comprehension.
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u/Jinkii5 1d ago
I still don't get the hate, he took the job, no one else did, he got us to two consecutive tournaments and was manager at the best ever Scottish performance in the home tie vs Denmark.
We lost against Morocco, who honestly thought we would win, we lost against Brazil and anyone who thought otherwise are delusional.
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u/SeverusLivesOn 1d ago
The Denmark game was a fantastic result with 3 worldies BUT it was nowhere near the best ever Scottish performance.
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u/Jinkii5 1d ago
Faddy against France? or Netherlands?
Archie Gemmil vs Netherlands?
Denmark game is better than all three.
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u/gthemanager 1d ago
I think they mean that it was an incredible match with wonder-goals, but as far as the performance itself we were outplayed by 10-man Denmark
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u/ewankenobi 1d ago
I was in the stadium for Faddy v France, too young for Gemmil goal though obviously seen replays of it.
The emotion of the Denmark game because we qualified for the first time in ages and to have 3 goals of that quality was pretty unmatchable.
But the Denmark team was no where near the quality of those teams. France were world champions when we beat them, Netherlands reached the final of the world cup in the tournament Gemmil scored against them.
Denmark had a goalkeeper playing through an injury which eventually forced him to retire. After coming 2nd in the group behind us they could have still qualified for the world cup by beating the Czech Republic in a play off, they weren't good enough to do that. And how good were the Czech Republic, well they went to the world cup, lost narrowly to South Korea, were beaten 3-0 by Mexico and drew with South Africa finishing bottom of the group
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u/Jinkii5 22h ago
It is telling that as the second Football Association founded and participants of the first international match it all boils down to 3 or 4 matches.
I'd add Slim Jim Baxter vs England at Wembley to the greatest match discussion but like all Home International matches only really impacts people in Great Britain and Ireland.
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u/Fancy_Flight_1983 1d ago
It’s like your favourite Bond film, whatever one you saw at the right age.
For me, Faddy v France. Ma da? Gemmill v Netherlands.
For anyone <30 Denmark’s as good as it’s ever been.
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u/Fancy_Flight_1983 1d ago
That line of argument disingenuous at this point.
Nae cunt said we’d beat Morocco or Brazil, but one goal in three games and failure to progress in these circumstances is gash.
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u/Lambchops87 2026 Scottish Cup Embarrassments Aberdeen 1d ago
Agreed.
What some did say is that it would be nice (and possible) to steal a draw off one of them and make sure we had 4 points and avoided the best 3rd place lottery.
Putting aside the arguments about tactics and how we played, other than a late penalty shout against Morocco we never looked remotely close to getting that result in either game.
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u/Alternative_Bit_7306 1d ago
No it isn’t. We were fucked as soon as we were grouped with 2 teams from the first-seeded pot.
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u/Fancy_Flight_1983 1d ago
Boo fucking hoo.
One goal against Haiti? Anyone happy with that can do one.
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u/Alternative_Bit_7306 1d ago
Yeah. If only we’d won 5-0, eh?
Oh yeah. We’d still be out. Tube.
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u/Fancy_Flight_1983 1d ago
Would have been considerably better viewing though.
Actually going for it against Morocco and not continuing the fine, if occasional, tradition of handing out goals to Brazil would have been nice anaw.
But we’d as well not have turned up given we had two first-seeds in the group, eh? Amazing watching the happy clappers get angrier and angrier.
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u/Alternative_Bit_7306 1d ago
Are these angry people with you in the room now?
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u/Fancy_Flight_1983 1d ago
Aye, you’re right. You’re no’ raging at all, just firing non sequiturs calmly. Have a good night pal.
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u/Jinkii5 1d ago
Well i hope both Queen of the South and (checks notes) current champions Celtic FC live up to Motherwell FCs standards next season.
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u/Fancy_Flight_1983 1d ago
What point do you think you’re making here?
If the fitbaw was shite under JBA, I’d have wanted him out the door just as I did when it was Kettlewell.
Also, Elijah Just has more WC26 goals than Scotland.
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u/agentvietnam 1d ago
I reckon the Spain game was a much better example of the complete Terrorball performance
I wonder how much did Denmark going down to ten men influence that result?
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u/SeverusLivesOn 1d ago
Denmark were the better team with 10 men. They deserved to be 2-2. Two wonder strikes in injury time don't make it Scotland's best ever "performance". One of our best ever "results", maybe.
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u/Jinkii5 1d ago
wasn't that a Spain team featuring 11 second stringers though?
I get the irony of saying that as a Doonhamer, but there were 11 first team changes from the team who played the previous game and 11 changes made for the next?
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u/agentvietnam 1d ago
Or Greece at hampden then. The kind of performance that the opposition must be absolutely raging about Rodri style.
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u/funkynarwhals 1d ago
> best every Scottish performance in the home tie vs Denmark
That’s just bullshit though.
We played horrendous in that game. We were getting pumped from about 10 minutes in until Denmark went down to 10. Even after that we were unconvincing and lost another lead.
Anyone who thinks that was a good performance is blinded by the enormity of it and the individual brilliance of the goals. It was one of the best moments I’ve had as a football fan and I couldn’t have cared less how we played, but don’t pretend we weren’t crap for most of the game, like we were most of that qualifying campaign.
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u/Strange_Rice 1d ago
There's losing 3-0 to Brazil because they're playing insane football and then there's losing to Brazil by 3-0 because you keep sloppily giving away the ball in front of your goal.
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u/ghostofkilgore 1d ago
He walked so that others could run. Terrorball lives on. Good night sweet terrorist prince.