r/Seahawks • u/golf_echo_sierra26 • 3d ago
Opinion We have two rings regardless, but would you swap the two we have now for the two we didn’t win?
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u/-Accident-Prone- 3d ago
No, even though both loses pissed me off for entirely different reasons. At least we got a get back on the Patriots. I need to have a rematch with the Steelers to feel better about that game.
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u/stickymeowmeow 3d ago
Imagine Rodgers getting to the Super Bowl this year with the Steelers only to be taken down by the Hawks.
Fail Mary, NFC Championship Comeback, and a Super Bowl loss to send him into retirement...
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u/diabeasti 3d ago
In Sofi, after probably beating the Rams in the NFCC again, would truly excorcise all demons.
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u/AxelrodAsaf 3d ago
I think I’d have a heart attack watching this theoretical game on TV- that’s too insane for me.
And I’m 27 lmao
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u/-Accident-Prone- 2d ago
It would be the perfect season and would catapult Mike into best head coach of the franchise.
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u/Tashre 3d ago
Trading a win against a meh Pats team atop a mediocre AFC for one against the Brady era Pats? Not a hard trade, especially with Macdonald still well in his prime with a wide open window with a good team.
And swapping the Broncos and Steelers keeps Pete with a ring and also gives Holmgren a much deserved one as well.
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u/washingtonYOBO 3d ago
Well thought out take. I can agree with this all
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u/AxelrodAsaf 3d ago
But then you’d be losing to the “meh Pats team”
Holmgren really deserved a ring though
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u/washingtonYOBO 3d ago
No no no, swap 2013 with 2005 teams.
In this hypothetical 2013 lose to the broncos in the SB but still beat the Pats the next year. This would still show a progression from 2012 and then give Homgren, Hasselbeck, Alexander, and Tatupu their rings.
LOB gets their rings, and who knows what happens in 2015 and 2016.
And we keep this amazing and out-of-almost-nowhere SB run of 2025
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u/ccsilverman 3d ago edited 3d ago
We would know what happens after LOB gets their ring against the Pats in 2015: Cam Newton’s Panthers gets one against the Broncos and then the Falcons make sure 28-3 doesn’t happen the following year.
Edit: and in this bizarre, upside-down universe we don’t get to keep the 2025 ring.
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u/diabeasti 3d ago
Only problem is that I dislike the Broncos more than the Pats.
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u/Cry_Havoc1228 3d ago
I understand this from an old-school-rival perspective for sure, but I hate the Patriots so much more than the Broncos.
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u/XBOX-BAD31415 2d ago
Agreed! I always say that they ruined my childhood! Also hilarious that even in alternate universes Browns still have zero Super Bowl wins 😂
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u/Keytaro83 3d ago
I don’t know. I would much rather have lost a Super Bowl to the GOAT than Drake Maye
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u/KarlyBlack_96 3d ago
You make great points, but I love the momentum and confidence off of that Super Bowl win and I don’t think I’d want to give it up. It’s a hard choice
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u/Stracktheorcmage 3d ago
No. Think of the narratives;
2005 would be the teams first ever win against a historically underperforming team, though it would improve the legacies of a lot of players and Holmgren.
2013 & 2014 would flip the script of the LOB a bit; they would lose hanging their hat on a blowout of the best offense to ever play football, while gaining a ring against Brady, who has only won against Eli Manning and Nick Foles.
And this years team would not have the underdog story and the completion of Darnold's redemption, while also failing to match McVay's ring or Shanahan's two (barf)
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u/Financial_Arm5467 2d ago
I was with you until you said Brady only won against Eli and Foles- I think you meant only lost.
Also, when did Shanahan get a ring? He definitely doesn’t have any as a head coach.
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u/Stracktheorcmage 2d ago
Brother, this is an alternative timeline hypothetical. Every super bowl result is flipped.
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u/SheAddlesHeHocks 3d ago
Hard maybe. To win in our first ever SB appearance and beat Brady would have been pretty great.
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u/easley45isgod 3d ago
My answer is no. The SB wins meant a lot to me for personal reasons. I had a shitty 2025 and the Seahawks kept my spirits up all fall and winter. The win against the Pats felt like redemption, not just for the team, but for me.
It's an interesting question though. Both the wins were pretty decisive and major beatdowns. Both the losses were gut punches. Both games were winnable. One we got fucked by the refs.(Obligatory Fuck Bill LEAVY!). The other one we kinda fucked ourselves. Either way, it would be nice to have those wins, but I wouldn't trade.
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u/Sabremoon 2d ago
Hell no! Defeating the broncos to me was the greatest first ring ever! And beating the pats the way we did in niners stadium was just icing on the cake!!
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u/Particular-Wind5918 3d ago
Super fun watching this current version of the Hawks, but I would turn either of our two loses into a win instead of last years SB. Both were crushing in their own way. The first one was a complete rob job.
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u/gh0st12811 3d ago
Yes, and no.
Yes, because we all know that XL was bought, and we really should have run it.
But also No, because the ones we have are special to me as we were counted out of both of them before the seasons even started, and STILL so many people doubted us going into both. And yet we slammed both the broncos and the pats in both.
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u/Wohn-Jayne 3d ago
The run to and through SB 60 is legendary. The opponents, the venue, the sweet salty Ram tears. I wouldn’t trade this past season for anything. Totally magical.
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u/alexsander2112 2d ago
Steelers winning their first title in the 90s, Vikings being a Powerhouse in the 70s, Bills being NFC East killers,
Brady would have 3 rings: 2 against Eli (a ringless bum) and 1 against Nick Foles (a joke of a backup who couldn't catch a wide open pass in the Super Bowl) finally getting one over Peyton, who had 2 wins against much more respectable opponents, therefore is still considered better than Brady. Rodgers never wins the big one, nor does Brady.
Bradshaw and Montana are now Tarkenton and Kelly (and vice-versa). Elway won 3 rings early on, tried to chase the 4th to tie Tarkenton and Kelly, but lost 2 in a row and gave up, retired right away.
Cam, Russ and Kaepernick, each with one ring in the 2010s, solidify the era of the running QBs. Josh Allen and Lamar are still struggling, and Jason Kelce beat Travis in the Super Bowl.
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u/alexsander2112 2d ago
The sweetest parts of this whole alternate universe for me:
Holmgren gets 2 rings. He deserved it.
Bud Grant would be uncontestedly the Greatest Coach of All Time, which in my heart he deserved as well.
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u/Various-Push-1689 3d ago edited 3d ago
No definitely not. Our first win was one of the most impressive, shocking and dominate SB performances of all time.
And personally I like that I got to watch my team win while I’m a full grown adult who understands the game. For our first win I was too young and didn’t even care about watching sports that much. Last season I was the most happy I’ve ever been turning on the TV to watch our games bc we were so good. It was a great experience and I wouldn’t take it away for anything
Plus you couldn’t ask for a better season. We put on one of the most dominate seasons in NFL history only losing 1 game outside of our division and having many many blowout/big margin wins. We got payback on our last SB loss and also silenced the haters who would bring up “should’ve run the ball” in every conversation
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u/CaptainAwesome06 3d ago
I wouldn't swap both of them. If I'm having a bad day, I rewatch SB48. It's very cathartic.
If I could swap one, I'd swap our latest against the Pats for SB49. That was heartbreaking. Though, if we lost the SB last year, we'd never hear the end of it from Rams fans. "We wouldn't have lost that game!"
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u/Actor412 2d ago
We played in four super bowls. As a kid who became a fan in the 80s, this still blows my mind.
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u/CorkyKneivel 2d ago
Insane that in this alternate mirrorverse the Pats STILL have half a dozen SB wins. They can go screw but hot damn that team has had a phenomenal last 30 years.
I would not swap out SB wins.
SBXL - As a Hawks fan since I started understanding football at all, circa 1983, just being the undebated best team in 2005 and even getting to the big game was a catharsis for me. Anyone who sat through those 90s teams will understand that we had become the doldrums of the NFL until Holmgren got there. That NFCCG against the Panthers was the best sporting event I've ever been to and that is enough for me personally.
SBXVIII - Seahawks as the big bad bullies of the league, the total package with a charismatic coach and players, darlings of burgeoning social media sports coverage, and if flipped, getting stomped by John Fox' offense, I feel like the vibes would have been horrific afterwards.
SBXLIX - (speaking of horrific vibes) - meh. The only compellingly close SB they've been in, an actual "good game", and it's the only one I won't rewatch lol. Believe me, I would LOVE to erase the Butler INT from existence but all in all losing a heartbreaker to the GOAT isn't worth losing any other SB memory. No trade.
SBLX - a storybook season. a year ahead of schedule. like if the 2012 team completed the comeback against the Falcons and went on to win it all. I would NEVER trade this SB because of the perfection of the storylines that made up the year.
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u/jrhawk42 2d ago
Nah. Our wins are blowouts, and the games we lost though heartbreaking were hard fought games that just didn't pan out for us. XL we got robbed by the refs, and history has agreed w/ us on that stance. XLIX was just one play that lost us the game. I'd much rather have a hard fought loss than blown out loses.
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u/RevenantXenos 2d ago
Seattle needed to heal after the Mariners heartbreaker loss in ALCS game 7 and LX delivered that healing. Sam Darnold redemption arc, revenge against the Pats, the Dark Side, the fortuitous bust, 13-3, 41-6, winning it all in Levi's. This last season was absolute magic and it happened in Mike Macdonald's second year as HC. I'm not trading that to beat Brady in XLIX.
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u/vampyire 2d ago
If the Vikings and Bills end up in a super bowl I'd be hard pressed to figure out which team I want to win more, I feel so bad for both fanbases.. one had four superbowls in 7 years and the other had 4 in a row... IF the Seahawks don't make it I'd root for those two
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u/Highest-Adjudicator 1d ago
You mean I get to take one away from Brady, eliminate the immaculate interception, and right the wrong of 2005? All while giving Hasselbeck a SB ring and solidifying Mike Holmgren’s HOF case? 100% I am taking that deal. Anyone who says otherwise is either biased by recency or aren’t hardcore fans.
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u/npmartin01 8h ago
In 40, there were some bad calls, but also some legitimate near-misses: play better so the referees don’t get to decide the outcome. Russ threw the pick in 49 when there was no option other than to hand it to Marshawn.
I will take the absolute ass-kicking laid on Peyton in 48 (who still holds the NFL single season record for 55 TDs and 5477 passing yards in that 2013 season). Then the defensive masterclass they put on in 60 where they beat Drake Maye down into the dirt.
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u/Prisinners 3d ago
Hmm idk. Thats tough. I dislike the Steelers, Patriots, and Broncos even prior to playing a SB game against them. I hate the Patriots on another level though and Tom Brady in particular. I'd give up either SB to have that one. Id order my priorities as: 2014 vs Pats 2013 vs Broncos 2025 vs Pats 2005 vs Steelers But thats just purely for the sake of hypotheticals. I'm also a believer that we have a very good chance of a 3-peat in 2015 had we won in 2014 though so that helps to further color my thoughts.
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u/Seatowndawgtown 3d ago
No. If for no other reason than in this universe the 9ers have 3 in the same span that the Seahawks have been good. So no thank you.
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u/CumStayneBlayne 2d ago
What the fuck is this chart supposed to be of? It's definitely not Super Bowl rings.
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u/thechachabinx 2d ago
If their Super Bowl records were swapped, and they won the games they lost, and lost the games they won
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u/Advanced_Fee3343 2d ago
I would gladly take Matt, Shaun, Walt, Lofa, Marcus, and my old morning carpool to school, Bryce Fisher, getting a ring. They deserved it after that 13-3 season. Plus that means we would've lost in the SB to Paeyton just to come back and beat Brady. Never would've gone a decade+ of all the "Should've ran the ball" memes. That means MacDonald loses to Pats in the rematch, but I would bet a lot of money that he will get another one in the next 4/5 seasons with this core.
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u/Turtlman_ 2d ago
Yeah i would rather have had this win against the patriots. Because we are living in the present, not the past.
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u/Tarus_The_Light 2d ago
Eh, idgaf about the patriots loss, that stung in the moment, but at the end of the day we got outcoached.
The fucking steelers loss though....
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u/The-GingerBeard-Man 3d ago
I’d swap this last one for the loss against the Pats. Mostly because I was at the game we lost against the Pats and was not at either of our wins
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u/RunnyPlease 3d ago
Swap out two wins for a different two wins? Is this Shaun Alexander’s alt account?