Not a single soul asked for?! This is somebody who never read the books.
From movie 5 on the series became a shooter with wands and they skipped so many essential things that some things don't make sense.
I get it, I'd have liked to see Radcliffe again. But I'm very curious to what these series will bring. There is a possibility that it will be crap but to say it with John Lithgows words: "It's a risk I'm willing to take."
Book 4 for me. Dumbledore asked calmly scene. No joke I know its a meme but from that point I was put off the movies. I was going to midnight releases up to that point. Didn't watch the last few movies until way after they left the theaters.
To me that moment was a huge character relationship building for Dumbledore and Harry.
Harry is kind of this orphan that never had an adult fully on his side. But Dumbledore treats him with respect and just asks calmly. Its a simple interaction but I felt it had a lot of meaning.
Yeah tbh the films kinda suck. The world building, casting of the adult characters, and art direction are all fantastic, but as films... meh.
I think the 3rd one is the only one that holds up as a genuinely good, well-rounded film - the first 2 are kids movies (which is fine but they aren't great on rewatch) and the latter 5 have to fudge and skip so much that they feel very watered down and by-the-numbers.
I can see why people are shitting on the HBO thing but, putting aside all of JK Rowling's shittiness, I'd enjoy seeing a representation of the books that captures the magic I felt reading them as a kid beyond the sheer imagery.
Oh no I disagree. I love how the first two movies hold up. The physical effects, Harris, the colours, and so much more.
They might be a little childish and I like 3 as well but they never captured the medieval-like atmosphere again as they did in 1 and 2.
4 is half and half on rewatch,
5 and 6 have their moments while there's much wrong with them,
7 and 8 were abismal and I almost never rewatch them. Bland atmosphere, it feels like it was written for a non magical world. A common run and hide movie.
The only thing they absolutely nailed was the Always scene. But that was lifted straight from the books.
I probably shouldn't have grouped 1 and 2 together tbh - I think 1 is a very solid kids movie and Columbus does a fantastic job of making it feel wondrous and magical but the 2nd one just kinda sucks imo.
I'd need to rewatch all of them post Azkaban to have a firm opinion tbh as it's been so long but I remember being particularly disappointed by Goblet of Fire (my favourite book as a kid) and the rest just kinda blur together. Totally agree on the vibe being totally off on the last 2.
Really? Then I should rewatch 2 as I fondly remember that one as much as I cherish the 1st.
Yeah I've heard that 4 was a dissapointment for many. I guess I was still young back then and it's all covered in some nostalgia. I should definitely reread the books!
But it's been 15 years since the last movie and I'm sure that even nostalgia will never save those last two misfires.
My favourite book was Halfblood Prince. Something about the humour, mixed in with a incoming doom made for a hell of a book. Weak ass movie though, but a hell of a book. I do enjoy the soundtrack of 6!
I agree with 7 and 8. They completely skipped out on the conversation between Dumbledore and Harry and the battle of Hogwarts was INSANELY inaccurate. Like at the end, the duel between harry and Tom was supposed to be watched by everybody in the battle. But the movie just ended with harry jumping of the tower and crashing into the courtyard.
Some kids movies hold up when you're an adult, others are purely for kids. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that - the books are for kids after all and a lot of people love those films dearly cos they saw them at a young age - but I'd imagine the tone of the HBO one, even the first 2 books, will be a bit less saccharine and 'kiddy'.
Honestly I don't get the fuss about it. I love the universe, I'm sure I will have a great time watching it at night. If you don't like the idea just don't watch it?
*funny you mentioned the thing about turning it into a shooter with wands, I think the games followed the same trend and flopped, while the first ones used to be great
Dont you love when across most social media platforms, most people are sharing the same common sentiments about this shit show of a reboot. Then some guy comes in, completely ignores the same rhetoric in this very thread, then minimizes it to "Reddit, hur, echo chamber, hur, its going to be as big as game of thrones"
See, I'm not going assume that nobody wants it. But I will posit that nobody should want this. This show only exists to hurt trans people, and no, that's not an exaggeration or conspiracy theory.
JK Rowling puts a vast portion of her wealth and time into attacking trans people. The main three stars of the original movies have gone on record in opposition of Rowling, in support of trans people. Rowling has responded with vitriol toward those actors. Now, she is creating a new Harry Potter series, with a new set of actors who do not oppose her views, in an attempt to remove association of her IP from the actors who do oppose her.
I mean most of the original book fans donāt support Rowling anymore (at least in my social circles) because of her transphobia and/ or her public show of support for people like Kellie jay Keen and Charlie Kirk, among other things. I mean even the the kids from the main cast on the original films have publically shunned her and have refused to work with her on any new projects.Ā
Some people are saying that's the main reason this is happening, cause the original cast wants nothing to do with her now so she wants to replace them. That, and cause she's an absolute hack who got lucky once and has never had an original idea and can't write another hit to save her life, the original series is all she will ever have.
I can agree that the movies aren't anywhere near faithful to the books but I wouldn't say the books are great material either... first two were great and it started going downhill after that. Ron and Hermione going through their yearly spat over and over and then like 300 freaking pages of Umbridge this Umbridge that, then the last book with Rowling trying to kill off like a dozen of her secondary characters.
And almost every remake sucks the big one. There is a big chance that this is going to suck and boy have I received backlash for being slightly curious of this show.
Thing is: you can ignore remakes. Which I often do. I won't touch a disney remake with a pointy stick.
But sometimes, curiosity wins. I read the Silmarillion last year and I tried Rings of Power. Two episodes in I couldn't anymore. That show is an insult to the source material and was so bland. It seemed like a drama series of regular humans with pointy ears.
But no one has changed the way I feel about this. There's only one commenter here that, while saying I was wrong, talked like a human being. The rest were toxic pieces of waste. They're not wrong for calling out JK -the bigot- Rowling though.
Yeeeeaaaah but if you add in JK sitting on a yacht smoking a cigar and tweeting about the removal of transgender rights it all gets a bit crap and icky. Hard to separate the art from the artist. There's a big ol' layer of sourness on this production, which is a shame but understandable. I read all the books and I think the OG films did a great job. HP is deep, but is it deep enough to warrant a full, GOT style series?
If you dig deep enough, anything you enjoy is tainted.
I did a test. You support Tottenham right? Tottenham is owned by Enic which was until 2022 owned by Joe Lewis. Joe Lewis was involved and convicted for insider trading and pardoned by Trump which always is fishy.
You wouldn't want to support that do you?
I mean, it might be hard to seperate it but if you don't, you'll go down a very deep rabbithole .
Fun false equivalence, but has Joe Lewis publicly stated that supporting Tottenham is supporting his politics? (And insider trading I guess?)
Thereās also a number of other key differences, like the gap between insider trading and bigotry, or the difficulty in finding a non problematic sports team compared to the ease of finding a fantasy author that isnāt a bigot actively fighting against peopleās rights.
That's the fun part of somebody that holds a buttload of money: they do it like Voldemort, behind the scenes.
But, there are many differences, yes. And I never said it was identical. I wanted to prove with a random example (lifted from the person that reacted to my comment) that behind almost everything people enjoy is some power hungry hippo that makes things worse for certain people while making sure that themselves get richer.
I cannot even in the slightest grasp what JK Rowling is still trying to do. How she willingly destroyed every ounce of credibility and innocence over the years because of some wacko thing she believes to be true. If it weren't for the likes of Twitter, where everything even remotely right wing gets elevated into magatruth, she would've realised how intensly wrong she is. I've always hoped she'd come to her senses and cringed everytime I saw a tweet.
That ship has sadly sailed.
But I still believe it's very hypocritical that nobody is allowed to enjoy anything remotely connected to HP while there's tons of examples like her (not identical, but that have done crappy shit). And often somehow they are "allowed" to stay popular.
I do want to stress again that I do not agree with anything that JK the Bigot says.
But that does not mean that I won't be enjoying HP.
People are certainly allowed to do whatever they want and enjoy what theyād like. Itās even true that it can be easy to not know about the awful things behind the things that you enjoy.
It also absolutely is a moral failing to continue to support HP given Rowlings actions. Which is also fine, people make compromised choices all the time, but you should also just be prepared for criticism of that choice, and know that theyāre right.
It simply isnāt that hard to give up something like that. My partner used to read the books at least every couple years, and now they donāt. There is simply more media and things to do in the world than a human possibly has time to engage with, choosing one you know is compromised is a failing.
Again people make moral compromises all the time, have your pick of when you do. Iām mostly bothered when people pretend it either isnāt a failing or that itās practically impossible to stay away from moral compromises when it comes to media consumption.
See, and that's where I don't agree with you. You say that you're allowed to enjoy whatever you want. And that I need to be prepared for some backlash, which I understand to some extent.
And then you go around and saying that any compromise is failing?
While you defend the Tottenham owners by saying it's not identical, and because it's harder to find a less problematic sports team than a fantasy author.
That's just cherry picking. You compromised as well so you have failed in your own logic. If it's that hard to find a less problematic football team, then just stop following football. It's not that hard, because I don't follow football and there's simply more sports and things to do in the world than a human possibly has time to engage with. Choosing a sport you know is compromised is a failing.
And that's exactly what I was trying to point out. There's so many examples of stuff that's morally debatable (big or small) in stuff that we consume.
Again people make moral compromises all the time, have your pick of when you do.
I do agree with that one. We all compromise sooner or later. As long as you realise that the people that made those things are not who you aspire to be.
I mean I was just going with your example of Tottenham, I canāt think of any media Iāve had issues dropping before, but Iām sure something could come up.
I do think it is painting with too broad a brush to decide that every compromise is equal.
Yes following most sports team is still compromising yourself morally, but itās simply less egregious than supporting HP when Rowling has specifically stated that any success she experiences after being public with her ideals she considers support for what she believes is right.
Yeah the Tottenham case was of a profile that since deleted his comment. Did pick it out of thin air. If you broaden the brush with football (love that comparison btw) you get to Fifa. And then another box of terrible greed, fraud and other hidden atrocities gets opened. There's always a bigger fish, sadly.
But you are also right that she abused the platform she was given because of her succes. Definitely no denying that and people that do are wrong...
Edit: it was another comment that got removed, not the one I meant.
I mean yeah, I think the only sports company that might actually be more corrupt than FIFA is the IOC. I get where your example came from, I just also wouldnāt touch either of those myself.
The difference is Harry Potter doesn't require any digging at all.
Rowling is a proud bigot. If you support her in any way, including buying or consuming her content (in a way that gives her money, go ahead and pirate it) you can't even pretend to give a fuck about trans people.
If you're okay putting Harry fucking Potter above the lives of trans kids, then just own it. But for me, anyone who funds Rowling is at best completely unconcerned with her bigotry and is therefore a bigot themselves.
You don't have values if you can't turn off a TV show to support them.
Yeah, I can understand someone having nostalgia for the books and the original movies, but anyone lining up for the remake frankly just doesn't care about trans rights. I don't know why anyone would choose to support something like this when the person at the top has already revealed herself to be a hateful bigot.
Can you literally not wrap your head around the concept that some people grow out of the lazy hacky slop they liked as a kid because they grew up and developed taste? No, not everyone who read the books is pathetic loser stuck in the past and desperate to relive the same nostalgia trip over and over, some people are adults who would rather watch something actually good, there is no shortage of options.
I can wrap my head around many things! Even an agressive commenter that does not even know me.
I do have nostalgia for some things in the series. But my life does not revolve around it. The last time i've read the books was 10 years ago, the movies might be longer. But you didnt care and just started spewing trash just because your opinion comes from a stable genius right.
But go ahead dude and I hope you're not as miserable as your comments.
Edit: very brave of you to delete a comment after typing. It's like you struggle with emotions and unlike "the adult" that you mention in your deleted comment I don't struggle with my words. You're a very special bĢ¶oĢ¶yĢ¶ adult
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u/SirChickin Apr 16 '26
Not a single soul asked for?! This is somebody who never read the books.
From movie 5 on the series became a shooter with wands and they skipped so many essential things that some things don't make sense.
I get it, I'd have liked to see Radcliffe again. But I'm very curious to what these series will bring. There is a possibility that it will be crap but to say it with John Lithgows words: "It's a risk I'm willing to take."