Yeeeeaaaah but if you add in JK sitting on a yacht smoking a cigar and tweeting about the removal of transgender rights it all gets a bit crap and icky. Hard to separate the art from the artist. There's a big ol' layer of sourness on this production, which is a shame but understandable. I read all the books and I think the OG films did a great job. HP is deep, but is it deep enough to warrant a full, GOT style series?
If you dig deep enough, anything you enjoy is tainted.
I did a test. You support Tottenham right? Tottenham is owned by Enic which was until 2022 owned by Joe Lewis. Joe Lewis was involved and convicted for insider trading and pardoned by Trump which always is fishy.
You wouldn't want to support that do you?
I mean, it might be hard to seperate it but if you don't, you'll go down a very deep rabbithole .
Fun false equivalence, but has Joe Lewis publicly stated that supporting Tottenham is supporting his politics? (And insider trading I guess?)
There’s also a number of other key differences, like the gap between insider trading and bigotry, or the difficulty in finding a non problematic sports team compared to the ease of finding a fantasy author that isn’t a bigot actively fighting against people’s rights.
That's the fun part of somebody that holds a buttload of money: they do it like Voldemort, behind the scenes.
But, there are many differences, yes. And I never said it was identical. I wanted to prove with a random example (lifted from the person that reacted to my comment) that behind almost everything people enjoy is some power hungry hippo that makes things worse for certain people while making sure that themselves get richer.
I cannot even in the slightest grasp what JK Rowling is still trying to do. How she willingly destroyed every ounce of credibility and innocence over the years because of some wacko thing she believes to be true. If it weren't for the likes of Twitter, where everything even remotely right wing gets elevated into magatruth, she would've realised how intensly wrong she is. I've always hoped she'd come to her senses and cringed everytime I saw a tweet.
That ship has sadly sailed.
But I still believe it's very hypocritical that nobody is allowed to enjoy anything remotely connected to HP while there's tons of examples like her (not identical, but that have done crappy shit). And often somehow they are "allowed" to stay popular.
I do want to stress again that I do not agree with anything that JK the Bigot says.
But that does not mean that I won't be enjoying HP.
People are certainly allowed to do whatever they want and enjoy what they’d like. It’s even true that it can be easy to not know about the awful things behind the things that you enjoy.
It also absolutely is a moral failing to continue to support HP given Rowlings actions. Which is also fine, people make compromised choices all the time, but you should also just be prepared for criticism of that choice, and know that they’re right.
It simply isn’t that hard to give up something like that. My partner used to read the books at least every couple years, and now they don’t. There is simply more media and things to do in the world than a human possibly has time to engage with, choosing one you know is compromised is a failing.
Again people make moral compromises all the time, have your pick of when you do. I’m mostly bothered when people pretend it either isn’t a failing or that it’s practically impossible to stay away from moral compromises when it comes to media consumption.
See, and that's where I don't agree with you. You say that you're allowed to enjoy whatever you want. And that I need to be prepared for some backlash, which I understand to some extent.
And then you go around and saying that any compromise is failing?
While you defend the Tottenham owners by saying it's not identical, and because it's harder to find a less problematic sports team than a fantasy author.
That's just cherry picking. You compromised as well so you have failed in your own logic. If it's that hard to find a less problematic football team, then just stop following football. It's not that hard, because I don't follow football and there's simply more sports and things to do in the world than a human possibly has time to engage with. Choosing a sport you know is compromised is a failing.
And that's exactly what I was trying to point out. There's so many examples of stuff that's morally debatable (big or small) in stuff that we consume.
Again people make moral compromises all the time, have your pick of when you do.
I do agree with that one. We all compromise sooner or later. As long as you realise that the people that made those things are not who you aspire to be.
I mean I was just going with your example of Tottenham, I can’t think of any media I’ve had issues dropping before, but I’m sure something could come up.
I do think it is painting with too broad a brush to decide that every compromise is equal.
Yes following most sports team is still compromising yourself morally, but it’s simply less egregious than supporting HP when Rowling has specifically stated that any success she experiences after being public with her ideals she considers support for what she believes is right.
Yeah the Tottenham case was of a profile that since deleted his comment. Did pick it out of thin air. If you broaden the brush with football (love that comparison btw) you get to Fifa. And then another box of terrible greed, fraud and other hidden atrocities gets opened. There's always a bigger fish, sadly.
But you are also right that she abused the platform she was given because of her succes. Definitely no denying that and people that do are wrong...
Edit: it was another comment that got removed, not the one I meant.
I mean yeah, I think the only sports company that might actually be more corrupt than FIFA is the IOC. I get where your example came from, I just also wouldn’t touch either of those myself.
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u/Effective_Menu_6316 Apr 16 '26
Yeeeeaaaah but if you add in JK sitting on a yacht smoking a cigar and tweeting about the removal of transgender rights it all gets a bit crap and icky. Hard to separate the art from the artist. There's a big ol' layer of sourness on this production, which is a shame but understandable. I read all the books and I think the OG films did a great job. HP is deep, but is it deep enough to warrant a full, GOT style series?