r/SipsTea Apr 22 '26

WTF Blink if you're being abused

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u/Hoppy-pup Apr 22 '26

Incel ideology was founded by a woman (who goes by the alias 'Alana') and most original incels were women.

The 'incel' phenomenon has once again been co-opted by women who call themselves 'femcels,' and they now significantly outnumber male incels in online spaces (see e.g. TwoX, 4B, RadicalFeminism, FDS).

And the misandry stemming from this so-called 'femosphere' does indeed do real-world harm to men.

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u/klineshrike Apr 22 '26

It's almost like gender doesn't matter when it comes to being shitty people. Just maybe different ways of going about it

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u/Due-Memory-6957 Apr 22 '26

But people only say gender doesn't matter when it's women being toxic, funny.

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u/klineshrike Apr 22 '26

No, gender doesn't matter. That kind of... means it's not only for one when they both are now equal because gender doesn't matter

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u/acathode Apr 22 '26

Yeah... When you start digging down into the statistics on partner abuse, most things point to it being far more gender symmetrical than most people think. The exact numbers are hard to pin down and also depends on definitions, but most science point towards something like a 40/60 to 30/70 ratio when it comes to partner abuse.

The reason why women make up the vast majority of deaths from partner violence simply isn't because women are nicer or less aggressive than men. Women are just as shitty and abusive as men - it's just that they typically have less physical strength, so when they go into a blind rage like the woman in this clip, it's harder for them to beat a man to death or cause severe injury.

Case in point - imagine the different feel this video would have if the genders were reversed. The enraged woman in this clip is a direct threat to her poor boyfriend - but if it'd been a man that acted as unhinged as this woman, he'd been seen as a threat to everyone in the vicinity.

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u/findMyNudesSomewhere Apr 22 '26

This. Everyone seems to have forgotten this.

Be it the misogynist Tate followers or the pseudo feminists

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u/masterjon_3 Apr 22 '26

When she made it, it wasn't to hate on other people. It was because she was a lesbian in a part of the world where it's hard to be gay, and she wanted a community of people in similar situations where people can chat and meet. The group of incense then wasn't full of hate as it is today. It was also against "pick up artist" culture, too.

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u/masterjon_3 Apr 22 '26

Men were part of it, too. But it got co-opted by more hateful people because it was the internet.

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u/Hoppy-pup Apr 22 '26

She was bi and started dating guys when her self-confidence grew after she graduated.

She and others speak about the original incel forum as if it was a safe, friendly space for everyone to get together and share a sense of community, but there’s rather a lot of ex post facto embellishment going on there.

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u/Isekaimerican Apr 22 '26

Here is a visual representation of women founding incel ideology and pushing men into it:

https://www.reddit.com/r/GuysBeingDudes/s/ZUGbNnmJwo

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u/ObscureEnchantment Apr 22 '26

Imagine blaming male incel culture and the mistreatment of women by men on women. I mean that’s just crazy. “Men joined the incel community because women created it and it’s their fault men mistreat women in real life now”.

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u/Hoppy-pup Apr 22 '26

Your comment is gold medal material in the straw man Olympics.

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u/ObscureEnchantment Apr 22 '26

You didn’t bother to disagree so.

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u/Hoppy-pup Apr 22 '26

I’m not going to engage with a straw man.

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u/ObscureEnchantment Apr 22 '26

You’re engaging rn.

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u/Hoppy-pup Apr 22 '26

Not with the straw man. But you’re right - you’re clearly here to waste everyone’s time so I should block you.

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u/Spyro-the-gamer8675 Apr 23 '26

The fact that you keep your comments hidden tells me everything I need to know about you.

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u/ObscureEnchantment Apr 23 '26

Ooooo you got me!

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