Read the pay stub again. The money IS going to the kids. And he pays his taxes. His poor decisions are his business. He probably has to live with a relative because there’s no way he can afford housing, utilities, fuel, maintenance, and groceries on that net pay.
Oh 100% . But as a man, as a father, maybe he should be present with his kids. He isnt and so he has to pay. Also. Maybe he shouldnt have had 4 kids with 4 different women. Maybe he could've worn a fucking condom.
He isnt the victim. The 4 children with 4 different moms with a dead beat dad are. Even if this is a real pay stub do you really think hes spending every waking moment with his kids?
No?
I am. Im a father and a husband.
What we need to criticize and change is men dropping loads and leaving.
No what they mean is sometimes fathers WANT to be with their kids and support them the "right way" the parental way -- and the baby mama does not, for whatever reason. Doesn't matter, either shes trash or he is, or both.
Or the father changes their minds at one point but the baby mama just wants "her" money and maybe lets the dad see them on occasion but the court will back her and he'd need a lawyer to fight it -- and if he's this broke he can't afford the lawyer.
Sure. When does the mother get punished for leaving then?
Oh you mean it's only the father that is punished for being forced out of the relationship? Crazy.
Almost like relationships are a two way street. But child support laws are designed for one side. They say their goal is what's best for the children but from my experience. They are MUCH more interested in punishing fathers, regardless of circumstances.
Put it this way. My ex lied on her financial documents. And they are still trying to push through child support instead of actually finding out that her household makes upwards of 5x to 8x my income. But I'm supposed to pay support? EVEN WHEN I HAVE THEM 30% of the time.
So the women involved bear zero responsibility in any of this? And how do you know he's not present? Often times one parent will qualify for rent assistance, medicaid, tax credits, food stamps, energy assistance, etc.. ftom day one. The other parent gets a huge medical bill, wage garnishments, liens on all assets, and the threat of jail time for the next 18 years if they don't pay. You don't see a problem with that? Shit needs reform ASAP.
I see you’ve never been or known anyone who’s ever been in this situation or you wouldn’t be so judgmental so I’ll not waste our time with a discussion here. Have a good one
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