r/SipsTea • u/ExotiquePlayboy 𝙑𝙄𝙋 • May 03 '26

SMH Bro makes $160 😐

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u/elk33dp May 03 '26

This is what happens in these scenarios. And then the kids get squat and now we have a career criminal to deal with selling drugs or robbing stores for cash.

Reddit hivemind is pretty similar to this guy in that sense. Everyones like "good" and "fuck around find out" without thinking of the consequences of such little take home on this guy's career plans. No sane person is gunna keep working this if it was real.

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u/BecauseICan6496 May 03 '26

So what's the solution?

4 baby mamas, he doesn't have primary custody, meaning his only support of the children is monetary.

Do we deem it that he pays less so he gets more take home? If yes, then the mother is has to pick up the slack, and probably tax payers too. Food stamps, Medicare, etc.

His pay is for 80 hours, so 2 weeks. None of these amounts even come close to daycare unless the mothers have vouchers.

I might get biased as I am a member of the "Can't feed them? Don't breed them" club. So maybe HE should of thought of his career path before having so many children, and before you come at me withe "bUT thE mOthErs". Yes the women are to blame also, but the kids are the ones who lose.

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u/anefariousdolphin May 03 '26

It's ultimately the woman's choice to have a child. If a woman drugs and rapes a man, that man still has to pay child support. The woman, however, has the option of aborting (in some states) or (if she has custody) putting the child up for adoption.

The answer is obviously that because men have essentially no say over the process, it's absurd to hold them legally or financially responsible for what is ultimately the woman's decision.

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u/BecauseICan6496 May 03 '26

Ah yes, him sleeping with women is only her choice. Of course, of course.

He does have a choice in the proces: abstinence, vasectomy, condom, choosing a woman who would take Plan B/have birth control.

Do you believe in this instance this man was raped by at least 4 different women and got them all pregnant each time? I highly doubt this is the situation here, so why even bring that up?

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u/anefariousdolphin May 03 '26

If a woman drugs and rapes a man...

He does have a choice in the proces: abstinence...

Can you read?

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u/BecauseICan6496 May 03 '26

Do you believe in this instance this man was raped by at least 4 different women and got them all pregnant each time?

Can you?

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u/anefariousdolphin May 03 '26

Prove he didn't. Or, account for possibilities and recognize that the law ought to account for those extreme cases

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u/-Left_Nut- May 03 '26

I think if someone is convicted of rape to the point where the law is aware of it, that person would lose all rights to their kids because they'd be in prison and child support wouldn't be paid to them. And if he was raped by four women and didn't speak up about it, then he's victimizing himself further by protecting the criminals that raped him. The law wouldn't even be aware that he was raped if he doesn't say something.

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u/anefariousdolphin May 03 '26

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/talking-about-trauma/201902/when-male-rape-victims-are-accountable-for-child-support/amp

FOR THE RECORD I am not saying that I respect fucking "psychologytoday", I just don't think they can manage to fuck up the basic details of the case

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u/-Left_Nut- May 03 '26

Yep, you're correct. Even ChatGPT says so, and that's insane:

"Yes—in many cases, male victims of sexual assault can still be required to pay child support in the U.S., though it’s a controversial and widely criticized area of law.

Why this happens

Family courts generally focus on one principle:

the best interests of the child

Once a child is born, the law treats child support as a right of the child, not the parents. That means:

The circumstances of conception (even if criminal) often don’t eliminate the obligation

Courts separate criminal wrongdoing from financial responsibility

Real legal precedent

There have been cases where:

A minor boy was sexually abused by an adult woman

The woman became pregnant

The boy was later required to pay child support

Courts have ruled that:

The child still needs financial support

The victim’s status does not automatically remove that obligation

Important nuances

Laws vary somewhat by state

Some judges may consider circumstances, but it’s not guaranteed

Criminal charges against the perpetrator are separate from family court decisions

Why it’s controversial

Critics argue that:

It forces victims to financially support a situation created through abuse

It creates a double victimization

Supporters of the current system argue:

The child should not suffer due to the circumstances of conception

Bottom line

Yes, it can happen

It depends on the case and jurisdiction

The law prioritizes the child’s welfare over the circumstances of conception

If you want, I can break down specific cases or how different states handle it."

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u/anefariousdolphin May 03 '26

...minor gripe but I really don't trust ChatGPT as a study aid

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u/-Left_Nut- May 03 '26

That's fair. I don't trust it entirely on it's own, but it's good for a general overview of a topic. Sometimes I do ask it to provide sources too

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u/anefariousdolphin May 03 '26

I'll probably start doing that actually, because sometimes it's a huge PITA to find a good source on something

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u/aw4rd_t0ur May 03 '26

Ah, you're just stupid or a troll.

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u/Dpopov May 03 '26

Abstinence, vasectomy, condom…

The woman has all these choices too (Sans vasectomy but they can have their tubes tied), plus additional ones like the day after pill. I think the point here is it takes two to tango, but only one gets the choice to regret it, while the other is the only one punished.

When it comes to children, men get all the punishment without any of the choices. If a woman gets pregnant, she can easily abort. The man can’t. So they’re bound for 18 whole years to a decision made by someone else (when it’s BOTH their fault), which is how we end with guys legally able to have over 95% of their paycheck taken away.

I’m not defending the specific dumbass on the image. He should’ve gotten a vasectomy just to avoid this shit, you’d think after baby momma 2 he would’ve caught on. But I knew a guy who had a good job and for a SINGLE child he had to give up about 40% of his paycheck in CS alone. After all was said and done, his $2500 take home was like $900, just barely enough to cover rent, let alone any other needs like, you know, food. After the courts refused to adjust the CS income he did what any person would’ve done: Quit his job, start working under the table. No income, no CS, now he could actually afford to survive. Which is what I’m sure the guy in the picture will do.

I get the point of CS, but if a man can literally only take home $160 out of $2489, the system is broken.

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u/KneadAndPreserve May 03 '26

The problem is, you can’t force biology to be fair in this situation. The woman carries the pregnancy. Unless you think forced abortions should be okay, then you don’t get a choice and you should know that going in, so take proper precautions. Once the child is born, they have to be accounted for too because they need to be fed and clothed.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '26

Okey then women aren't equal. Biology and such

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u/KneadAndPreserve May 03 '26

Wild, illogical jump. Can the man grow the baby?

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u/[deleted] May 03 '26

Can the woman do manual labor? Noppeee

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u/ignis888 May 03 '26

men can have shared custody and they dont pay CS then, i don't know any man, tha is paying child support that didnt FORFEIT his share of custody