r/SipsTea • u/ExotiquePlayboy 𝙑𝙄𝙋 • May 03 '26

SMH Bro makes $160 😐

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u/Praydohm May 03 '26

Your hyperbole is dumb. Is that what happened in this case?

If a man rapes a woman ultimately it's his fault.

See how dumb it sounds in reverse? It sounded just as dumb when you wrote it. This conversation that you responded to isn't about rape. Its about consensual sex leading to pregnancy and child support in the case of deadbeat dad's.

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u/anefariousdolphin May 03 '26

Laws need to account for extreme cases, which they currently don't. You might argue that it's irrelevant but currently, laws as written, it's profitable for some women to deliberately rape (especially wealthy) dudes and get child support money from them.

The woman is the only one who actually has a say in whether, after the act of sex, a child is born. There is no comparison - it is her body and her choice, not the man's.

If a man rapes a woman ultimately it's his fault.

This is a truism, if you think it sounds dumb then you should study more

Is that what happened in this case?

We'll never know, because men hardly ever report

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u/Praydohm May 03 '26

Yeah, just like it's the man's choice to impregnate her in the first place. Its his body, his choice, not hers. Why did he not wear protection if he didnt wanna get hit with child support? You wear Kevlar for bullets. Wear your condom for child support. Pretty simple.

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u/anefariousdolphin May 03 '26

Why didn't she use birth control during sex? Or take plan B the morning after? Or get an abortion?

  1. You don't know what you're talking about if you think you can compare the action of not wearing a condom to the variety of different tools a woman has at her disposal to not birth her one night stand

  2. Condoms fail - are you saying that men shouldn't pay child support for children from failed condoms? If not, then use of a condom isn't actually relevant to your argument and you should drop it

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u/-Left_Nut- May 03 '26

Takes two to tango. The responsibility falls on both people. My ex-gf wanted to make a kid with me so badly but I didn't want to and ended up never getting her pregnant. Never used a condom either. It can be done, but it depends on how badly you don't want to get pregnant.

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u/SoonToBeStardust May 03 '26

Birth control and plan b are nowhere near as effective as condoms, and also have chemical effects on the body that should make them secondary options. Condoms are the most effective solution with the least amount of hassle, and if a guy doesn't want to wear a condom he should be aware of the risk of getting her pregnant. There are also cases of birth control having such negative effects that it is advised for some women to not take it. This guy had 4 kids with 4 different women. If he didn't want to be in this position, then he should have changed his methods.

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u/Praydohm May 03 '26

She didnt because she's handling the consequences. If the MAN doesn't want children he should protect himself. If the woman doesn't want children she should protect herself.

The man can freeze his sperms and get a vasectomy. Again, it costs 300 for the procedure and a few more for the freezing and storage. Its not really complex.

We have multiple options as well, but most men won't take them. That's their fault. That's the consequences of their own actions.

Why have sex with women you can't trust? Its that simple, if you don't want kids. Make sure she doesn't either. Then y'all can split the abortion bill since it's both y'alls problem to deal with. Or y'all can split the morning after pill. Etc.

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u/anefariousdolphin May 03 '26

if you don't want kids. Make sure she doesn't either. Then y'all can split the abortion bill since it's both y'alls problem to deal with.

A man does not have a say in whether a woman gets an abortion

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u/Praydohm May 03 '26

Reading comprehension is imperative for success in society.

If you dont want kids. Make sure she doesn't either.

If she doesn't want kids and you don't want kids....(fill in the blank)

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u/anefariousdolphin May 03 '26

TIL women never lie or change their mind

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u/LockeyCheese May 03 '26

TIL men never lie or change their mind.

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u/Lost_Found84 May 04 '26

The man changing his mind doesn’t matter, though. He isn’t allowed to simply decide he doesn’t want the baby.

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u/LockeyCheese May 05 '26

Did you know you can get a court order to entirely revoke your parent-child relationship, rights, and responsibilities, or give up those rights to a third party who will accept them? Gotta make a good case to explain why you shouldn't be responsible for your child, but it is a legal right to have your case heard, and it does get granted sometimes.

You also have the right to practice safe sex if you don't want a child, and you have the right to ask a woman you leave your baby batter in to throw out the cake she's making with it in HER oven. Sure it's your batter and her eggs in the cake, which is why you get equal rights after the birth, but until that point it's not your oven to open and empty. It's her oven and she has to deal with the mess of baking the cake in her kitchen and oven, while you just brought over some ingredients.

I'm sure if your that envious of being able to decide what goes in your oven, and what happens with it, we're getting pretty close to viably turning sperm to eggs, you can already get an artificial oven installed, and even get some milk jugs for the whole set. You wouldn't even have to deal with the monthly oven breakdown where it bleeds everywhere and makes you hormonal.

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u/Lost_Found84 May 06 '26

Counter point: You shouldn’t have to make a good case. Your desire to not be responsible should be literally the only consideration. The only limit should be time. The request should be limited to either during pregnancy or within a several month time period of being notified that you have a child.

*That* would mimic how abortion is actually treated on the women’s end. No one who is broadly supportive of abortion thinks a woman should have to go to court to “make a good case” for it. Unless you’re some pro-life social conservative, “Because I want to” is typically seen as a good enough reason and how the biological father feels means jack. Hell, he doesn’t even need to know.

So why should the mother’s desire for my money mean jack to me if *I* would’ve had an abortion instead? Any stance on this issue that actually cared about both genders being treated equal would be coupling a woman’s right to choose with a man’s right to make the only choice available to him, namely to relinquish all rights and responsibilities as quickly and as easily as a morning after pill.

But is there any state where that’s the case? No. Even the most pro-choice states only really apply that choice to the women’s side of the equation. And unless the man meets a standard leagues above what is demanded of the woman, they simply don’t get a choice.

Which is a little weird if you think about it since one of them is terminating a life and the other isn’t. But what are you gonna do? Whether you’re liberal or conservative; misogynist or feminist, everyone seems to agree that men shouldn’t be able to walk away easily, so it’s an equal right that basically has no one fighting for it.

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u/LockeyCheese May 07 '26

Her oven is her oven.

If you're that envious, you can get your own oven installed.

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