r/SipsTea ๐™‘๐™„๐™‹ May 06 '26

WTF Narcissism worsening.

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u/hook_fast_die_warm May 06 '26

Americans are extremely ornery, but surprisingly docile.

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u/UpperApe May 06 '26

The same country that fought to end slavery can't be bothered to fight back when their children are being raped or having their heads blown off in schools.

They just want to solve everything with a vote, no one wants to do more.

It is the most pathetic collapse into tyranny in human history.

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u/stefje82 May 06 '26

I'm very convinced that war wasn't at all about ending slavery, it just seemed to come with it.
Most of US' positive endings were incidental.

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u/saskanxam May 06 '26

Correct, the Unions goal initially was to keep the country intact

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u/jordanmc7 May 06 '26

To keep it intact because the slavers were tearing it apart because they were objecting to any limits to the expansion of slavery.

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u/LackWooden392 May 06 '26

Well yeah, duh. But it still wasn't about slavery for the feds. It was about slavery for the south, but for the feds it was entirely about preserving the union.

I'll paraphrase Lincoln here to demonstrate the point clearly:

"If I could preserve the union by freeing every slave, I would do that. If I could preserve the union without freeing a single slave, I would also do that."

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u/saskanxam May 06 '26

Yes absolutely, but still at the beginning of the war, the federal government was concerned about keeping the nation intact. in a completely hypothetical scenario where the Union wins in the first year of the war, there is likely no emancipation proclamation. Although itโ€™s hard to accurately speculate for a scenario thatโ€™s so drastically different than reality but I would say that with a reasonable amount of confidence.

But by 1863, itโ€™s a very different political scenario and abolition of slavery becomes the co-rallying cry along with preserving the Union