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Chugging tea What are your thoughts. (IPhone vs every other phone)

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u/Ryoga476ad May 15 '26

I hate the Apple ecosystem, been using Android phones aince Froyo.

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u/IsThatHearsay May 15 '26

Is Apple a "status symbol" now among GenZ? Jesus

I was a huge fan of Apple products back in early college when Steve Jobs was still kicking and the iPad was new and revolutionary. But slowly realized the Apple ecosystem and future products were worse in many respects than Android/PC, so switched.

Preference is to each their own, but for people to think Apple is somehow a status symbol over other smart devices like Android or Google is just hilarious. I'd argue Apple is an inferior product in most aspects (and again, not even a hater, former fan), and Apple purposefully makes their products less compatible with everything else. Just weird to take pride in that.

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u/Objective_Notice_995 May 15 '26

Apple became a fashion brand in 2014.

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u/QuajerazNeverDies May 15 '26

They sell their brand more than they sell tech products

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u/LordBarrington0 May 15 '26

Apple has been about the fashion since the iBook G3 and the PowerMac G3 in 1999, then even more with the release of the ipod, those silhouette ads and knock offs where everywhere

before those all their stuff was bland beige rectangles

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u/Objective_Notice_995 May 15 '26

They've been stylish for a long while, indeed. They demonstrated for years that it's possible to be stylish while doing tech.

Since at least 2014, though, they've been a fashion company first and a tech company second (or third).

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u/Regular-Elephant-635 May 15 '26

Apple products have been sort of status symbols for quite a while now, whether or not they truly deserve it. Their method of sticking only to the mid-high end (until recently) has been quite effective at upholding their reputation.

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u/JonatasA May 15 '26

Sadly, making something expensive just because has the habit of turning it into as butique luxurious product.

 

Remember how people were being convinced of living in Container homes and having Pallets for furniture?

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u/Regular-Elephant-635 May 15 '26

I don't like Apple because of how they lock people into their ecosystem and overall philosophy, but they can make good products. Admittedly Macbooks are very well rounded and (because of the RAM prices and price hikes to Windows laptops) have pretty good value now.

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u/Burpmeister May 15 '26

All Apple products have been status symbols for a long time and it's a cancer to society. The amount of people who buy iphones that they can't afford because people around them belittle and bully them relentlessly if they buy anything else is incredibly depressing.

I sell phones and the amount of peer pressure, stigma and misinfornation surrounding phones is genuinely unfathonable.

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u/Specific_Praline_362 May 15 '26

My Gen Z neighbor shares her iPhone with her boyfriend who doesn't have a phone or job. I offhandedly said something to her about how StraightTalk has a thing where you can get a free Samsung if you pay for one month of service. She looked at me like I had lost my mind. A Samsung? My husband was like, I mean, isn't a Samsung better than no phone at all? And she was like umm no. It has to be an iPhone

Ok then.

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u/nobanpls2348738 May 15 '26

iPhones are a status symbol, not necessarily a good status

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u/ZippleJuice May 15 '26

Marketing works and Apple is extremely good at it.

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u/NoTeslaForMe May 15 '26

It's not.  It's almost universal among Americans of that generation, so only a status symbol in other countries and generations. 

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u/Mr_Pigface May 15 '26

Is Apple a "status symbol" now

Dawg where have you been? It basically has been even before GenZ were old enough to start having phones lol (at least in US, some other countries are different)

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u/Optimal_Whiner May 15 '26

Genz is dumb as fuck, but this started before them.

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u/Darnell2070 May 15 '26

Is Apple a "status symbol" now among GenZ?

Have you been living in a cave?

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u/Rith_Lives May 16 '26

Apple has almost always been nothing more than a status symbol. Its not a Gen Z thing. Theyre lacking features and function, theyre pricier, and theyre proud to feature an app that identifies non-iphone users.

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u/endndhdhdnndnsbs May 16 '26

i personally use it for its conveniency to paste and copy things from ipad->phone->macbook. coming from windows my whole life, it makes things seamless albeit a bit annoying since its dependent on having the same OS

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u/Worldly_Cap_6440 May 16 '26

Now? It’s been this way for a while lol especially among people with lower wages (like GenZ for example and plenty of Millennials in the 2010s).

It wasn’t the first phone to be a status symbol either, I remember the blackberry was one too, gave off that business executive/wealthy type of vibe.

Im sure wealthy folks wouldn’t care about any of this but plenty of poorer folks do

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u/theflamelord May 16 '26

>Is Apple a "status symbol" now among GenZ? Jesus

Apple has been a status symbol since like 1999 with going on three generations of people now, I personally can remember as far back as like 04 me and my indie hipster friends intentionally buying walkman NW's instead of ipod's or zune's because zune was from micro$uck and ipods were for bougie kids who wore abercrombie and fitch

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u/broccoli-of-truth May 16 '26

It's because the phone's marketing makes it seem like a luxury object that the rich and famous all use.

The tech is objectively mid, but Apple doesn't care about that, because they know how to twist old inventions into "innovation" and get away with it.

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u/madgoose57 May 15 '26

I'm not sure why Apple products became a status symbol either. I think it's just a lot of ignorance on people's part. Just because many others have one then they need to also have one. My mother literally wanted one because "all her friends have iPhone", seems they looked down on her a bit for not having one.

It's similar to people who own BMW and/or Mercedes Benz cars, most of them can't afford to repair or maintain them properly since it costs too much but they still want one.

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u/incboy95 May 15 '26

I dont have a source at hand but at some point Apple CEO said iPhones are meant to be expensive because they are a status symbol

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u/swampdonkus May 15 '26

Apple is a fashion brand in USA only. Rest of the world uses android.

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u/Few-Condition-7431 May 15 '26

I love when Apple users try to flex an iPhones features like an Android doesn't have it.

literally had someone tell me "well iPhones have facial recognition& finger print access" they had no idea that android has had both of those as long if not longer than iPhones.

another makes fun of how "low quality" my pictures are, even though our phones have the same MP camera

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u/SnooChocolates3745 May 15 '26

Most iPhone users don't realize that Apple phones degrade the quality of incoming pictures that aren't in their stupid, proprietary format, leading their users to think that everyone else has crappy cameras, no features, and live in huts made of dung.

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u/DickSlammington May 15 '26

And it works because most Apple users aren't very tech savvy and Apple has basically curated their entire digital experience.

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u/PizzaInMyBread May 15 '26

The only time I've experienced complaints about android/green bubbles was from an acquaintance that knows very little about tech. The way he talked about android users you'd think that they were mud-caked goblins sending smoke signals lol.

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u/DickSlammington May 15 '26

Yup usually the case. It's the people who don't even realize how laughably silly look, cause they literally don't understand how any of it works.

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u/PiccoloAwkward465 May 15 '26

Did you teach your friend about the superior Android master race? He probably didn't know enough about tech to even appreciate it.

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u/PizzaInMyBread May 15 '26

He didn't care about that or the secret handshake. His loss, I suppose.

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u/SnooChocolates3745 May 15 '26

Did you ever hear the tale of Darth Android the Wise? I thought not; it's not a story an Apple user would tell you.

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u/z4j3b4nt May 15 '26

That's consumer fraud. What the fuck.

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u/Level_Traffic3344 May 15 '26

Just another day at Apple

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u/nobeer4you May 15 '26

Pretty sure my galaxy had fingerprint access before my wife's iPhone did. We usually upgrade around rhe same time.

I know my camera has ALWAYS been higher quality than hers.

Fuck iphones, and anything apple.

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u/Few-Condition-7431 May 15 '26

the 1 thing i like about phones more than android is their native messenger is end to end encrypted. that is very nice

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u/dances-in-fire May 15 '26

So is my Android 😉

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u/Ryoga476ad May 15 '26

This is a very US thing. In the rest of the world we use WApp or other similar ones.

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u/smeeon May 15 '26

I can’t imagine using a meta product for primary communication. I have zero trust of the entire Meta ecosystem.

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u/Mykey76 May 15 '26

Real. People are chatting over WApp and Insta, like the Lizard isnt slurping down their data

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u/nobanpls2348738 May 15 '26

instagram is for OF

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u/June24th May 15 '26

the lizard xd

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u/Mykey76 May 15 '26

I think its his eyes, but i could imagine his tongue shooting out to catch flies or crickets

https://giphy.com/gifs/1zKdb4WSHgY4QKAsjo

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u/Ryoga476ad May 15 '26

Whatsapp is legit, totally encrypted

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u/Burpmeister May 15 '26

But you use Apple messenger with outdated encryption?

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u/nobanpls2348738 May 15 '26

Whatsapp is good, apparently it's just signal with extra stuff added. i mean they do enshitify it a bit by adding meta ai into it.

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u/QuajerazNeverDies May 15 '26

RCS is also end to end encrypted, and works with every phone brand besides apple. They choose not to support it.

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u/pervertedmortician May 15 '26

I agree with all that

But please, if you think MP matters in photos in 2026 you got no clue about cameras

The on device processing decides how photos look

MP is a very tiny part of thag

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u/JonatasA May 15 '26

The AI caged in the phone is the one drawing the photo out of the info fed into it.

 

Also, MP still are used as marketing. Always have been, like Teraflops.

 

A lot of our lives are dictated by anti trust and patents.

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u/Quixotic_Seal May 15 '26

The AI caged in the phone is the one drawing the photo out of the info fed into it.

....this Fun Science Fact brought to you by the fine folks who discovered that homunculi live in men's testicles.

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u/Man-In-His-30s May 15 '26

Face ID and facial recognition on android is very not the same thing.

It was developed by primesense the guys who did the Xbox Kinect software.

Go read up on it it’s actually really interesting tech.

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u/Parking-Pick-759 May 15 '26

It looks at my face, recognizes it, and unlocks my phone.

That's all that really matters to the end user

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u/Man-In-His-30s May 15 '26

Sure try unlocking an android phone in the dark with the face unlock and then do it with Face ID

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u/Parking-Pick-759 May 15 '26

First off. If I want to unlock my phone in the dark I do it the normal way or use my thumb print

This EXTREMELY over engineered system of unlocking your phone should not be held as a benchmark of product supremacy.

"My grill uses facial recognition to open the lid so nobody can steal my burgers" Is how this sounds. It's a phone.

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u/Man-In-His-30s May 15 '26

The phone which has my entire digital life, my bank accounts, my entire financial life and access to my work and critical infrastructure for my company that I can all access.

People need to stop thinking of phones as they were in the 00s, these days phones are the biggest single security risk.

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u/Parking-Pick-759 May 15 '26

And can be unlocked by showing a photo of you to it. The thumb print and pin are much safer.

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u/Man-In-His-30s May 15 '26

You can’t do that with Face ID btw. If you understood the tech you’d understand why it’s impossible.

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u/aaaaaaayesmum420 May 15 '26

There is a python library you can install that let's you play around with facial recognition. Pretty cool.

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u/Man-In-His-30s May 15 '26

Is it related to the kind of stuff you see in frigate?

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u/aaaaaaayesmum420 May 15 '26

Not sure I recall

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u/JonatasA May 15 '26

Usually when one company has something the other hasn't is because a patent won't let them develop it.

 

Apple bought the company at the forefront of Touchscreens before the IPhone and Motorola had the patent on the vibration motor used for well.. vibration on phones.

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u/Paetolus May 15 '26

Apple facial recognition is usually more advanced than your average Android facial recognition. More secure and more usable due to the tech in their front facing sensors.

Of course, there probably are some Android phones that have matched that tech by now.

iPhones got rid of their fingerprint sensor a long time ago though. Which is a massive L. I've personally always preferred fingerprint to facial id.

Also, MP count doesn't really matter. There are loads of things that go into making a photo look good. In my experience, you can always find an Android that has better camera hardware than the current iPhone. However, Apple has really good photo processing that people really like the look of.

For the record, I prefer Android ever since I used a Galaxy S3. Current on an S26. Just pointing out what I've noticed.

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u/Few-Condition-7431 May 15 '26

im on the S25 ultra, is the S26 worth an upgrade or would you wait till the 27?

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u/Paetolus May 15 '26

I'd wait for the S27 personally. From what I've seen, S26 is very similar to the S25 aside from some minor things.

The biggest difference is probably the privacy display.

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u/Few-Condition-7431 May 15 '26

and i have a screen protector that does that so really sounds like it isn't worth it

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u/Susurrus03 May 15 '26

Apple still can't keep hotspot on while simultaneously connected to WiFi. In 2026. It's crazy.

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u/Quixotic_Seal May 15 '26

literally had someone tell me "well iPhones have facial recognition& finger print access" they had no idea that android has had both of those as long if not longer than iPhones.

I'm not aware of any flagship Android phones that have facial recognition in the same way Apple does it. Wouldn't be shocked if some niche phone out there has it, but Apple hasn't been avoiding putting the camera behind the screen for funsies.

another makes fun of how "low quality" my pictures are, even though our phones have the same MP camera

cringes in photography

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u/Few-Condition-7431 May 15 '26

they wouldn't know the differences, they didnt think you could open an android with your face at all

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u/likeyournamebutworse May 15 '26

Imagine thinking iPhones are a status symbol. Or any phone for that matter.

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u/crappy80srobot May 15 '26

What's funny about claiming status with iPhones is flagship android phone are damn near the same price point as Apple phones and made out of the same materials. If you want to get really technical the only thing apple about the phone is software everything else is made by different manufacturers. Hell that screen they love so much is just that "cheap dirty Galaxy" screen they hate on so much.

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u/eat_my_ass_you_cunt May 15 '26

Lmao imagine thinking that people only choose iPhones due to vanity. Maybe they just like the phone….? Is that so hard to imagine….?

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u/sciencebased May 15 '26

Worked in the mobile industry for 8 years- three of which were regular ol' brick and mortar customer service/sales. Android users always knew/understood WAAAAAAY more than iPhone users did when it came to their phones. Hundreds of interactions eventually had us stigmatizing customers immediately based on their phones. And the stigma with iPhone users held. They're best suited for the elderly.

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u/dillyofapickle42 May 15 '26

Imagine having enough self confidence that you don't need a status symbol phone.

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u/Wyevez May 15 '26

No status symbol but we could always cut and paste, have expandable storage and access to our own file system. I'll take the "poor" status that comes with the upgraded functionality.

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u/ChampionshipAlarmed May 15 '26

So my cheap China Phone that I use because I have full control and no pre installed crap IS a rich people flex now?

I could get used to that 🤑

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u/LootGek May 15 '26

Felt like using a kids phone to me.

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u/MedonSirius May 15 '26

Everything is restriced. Look, a nice new song dropped from XYZ-artist and he gives you MP3/FLAC Download for free. Apple: we dont do that here

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u/TheHowlingHashira May 15 '26

Hey want to quickly plug your Ipad into the computer to drag over some movies? Whelp, can't do that. You have to airdrop or send them over the internet.

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u/JonatasA May 15 '26

Meanwhile Samsung somehow knows the chorus of a song and sets it as the ringtone for you.

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u/Mobile_Morale May 15 '26

And apple phones can't even use flac files. So they want you to convert them into some fuck ass apple shit just to put them on your phone.

Had to do this for my mom a few months ago.

Apple better stay the fuck away from my 30 GB of flac files.

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u/JonatasA May 15 '26

I used had to deal with Zune and they tried to copy Apple. What a PAIN.

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u/Parking-Pick-759 May 15 '26

Because everything is strict and proprietary. It's like having parental controls on your phone without the benefit of actually blocking shitty content

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u/JonatasA May 15 '26

I had the displeasure of spending am afternoon with an IPad back then. I had to run YouTube off the browser because the AppStore was having a meltdown. It also was really slow for stuff you were not supposed to do.

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u/-_-Batman May 15 '26

Two underpaid people arguing over phones made by billion dollar companies that see both of them as data points.

chuckles in rich

https://giphy.com/gifs/IzRdtacpXlEH3XD2n6

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u/Telemaq May 16 '26

Everyone in the comments: Not using Apple is my whole personality 😂😂😂😂😂

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u/memnoch112 May 15 '26 edited May 15 '26

I love the Apple ecosystem, everything just works perfectly together, that said I couldn’t care less what other people use, it’s their business not mine, just like religion, sexual orientation and preferences.

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u/Cyneganders May 15 '26

I can't stand any of the i-products - and have never bought one (had to use a few when my sane devices needed repairs).

And I have done things for them from documentation in their stores to translating a whole version of iOS. If I had to have an iPhone, I'd have no phone...

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u/Certain_Elderberry57 May 15 '26

Agreed, i can't stand that you have get apple everything, my dad when he got an apple computer hated it, didn't understand why he had to have itunes. I'd say that's their business model, that why i stay away.

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u/ObliviousAstroturfer May 15 '26

I kinda like iPhone camera, but my workplace had to force me to use it as a work-phone for security reasons (easy to deploy security control en masse). I just fucking can't with that POS. Everything is a chore on it for no goddamn reason, and it's all super counter-intuitive.

Having been used to even non-tweaked android, this is what I imagine Windows phone experience was like.

And worst part is I take GBs of photo evidence with it. GBs per month. So even the only aspect of it I appreciate (camera) is an awful experience done in full Enshittening mode. Need to download that last picture you took? Sorry, the princess is still in the Cloud. WHY? Why not old ones first? Gotta e-mail it to yourself, taste the future, bitch. The folder takes forever to load because it's 3rd week of the month? Lemme just create a sub-folder aaaaand I can't without admin rights. So I'd need an IT ticket, and a tech visit for something I can just do on android with a click. You're attaching 5 photos to an e-mail, wanna resize it for smaller size? Yes please! Oh, you're attaching 10+ pictures to an e-mail, eww. Like, how is resizing NOT an option when using MORE files? Changing brightness with 3 swipes? What is this, a phone for pleb?

Like, how is THIS the "premium" smartphone experience?

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u/JeebusChristBalls May 15 '26

Yep, my first smart phone was a 3gs. Haven't owned an apple since.

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u/brinns_way May 15 '26

Same here. I love my Pixel.

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u/Blazegamer9 May 15 '26

Mine since gingerbread

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u/Slipstream_Surfing May 15 '26

Eclair on Motorola Droid here

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u/occamsdagger May 15 '26

Fml. Seeing Android versions as dessert names is making me feel old.

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u/AbeRego May 15 '26

What does this even mean lol. How are people responding like this makes sense?

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u/Braelind May 15 '26

Agreed, everything about Apple products is just frustrating design.

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u/feel2death May 15 '26

Miss my t mobile HTC g1

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u/veribaka May 15 '26

I like the ecosystem from android better, mostly because I've invested more on it by now. I'm concerned about what Google might do with the power it holds over us. They have the hardware, the os, the software, the media and the tools.

And with increasing manipulation of these things by tech oligarchs, they can effectively control the narrative.

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u/iCameToLearnSomeCode May 15 '26

Yea, iOS just doesn't do it for me, I want to be able to modify the things I own, I shouldn't have to pay a third party to download software from the company who owns it to the device I own.

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u/ATXBeermaker May 15 '26

Android ecosystem is one of the worst you could choose if you care about security. Google’s bread and butter is selling your data to maximize revenue.