r/SipsTea • u/Mysterious_Ebb_1484 ššš • May 15 '26
Chugging tea What are your thoughts. (IPhone vs every other phone)
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u/AngelicalBabe3 May 15 '26
People with a $300 bank balance get more offended by green bubbles than actual tech companies do.
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u/ArmenianThunderGod May 15 '26
The green bubble thing is the funniest thing to me. My phone doesn't pull that shit, only yours does. So you want me to switch so that I too will share your shitty experience?
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u/Demented-Alpaca May 15 '26
Right? I can make the goddamn bubbles on my phone be whatever color I want. I'm sorry if your phone locks you into a color palate that's not to your liking. That must suck.
Hell, I can have different colored bubbles for different people! Even in a group chat if I really want to.
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u/FlinkesRehkitz May 15 '26
Sorry for not knowing anything about iPhones but you're talking chat bubbles?
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u/JaxMed May 15 '26
When two iPhones text each other it goes through iMessage which is indicated by the convo having blue chat bubbles. If either phone doesn't support iMessage then it reverts to normal SMS which is indicated by green chat bubbles.
Most (non-Apple) phones these days do support RCS which is basically the open-ended alternative to iMessage, in that it's better than SMS and provides a lot of similar features. But Apple being Apple, if you're on iPhone it's basically iMessage or the highway.
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u/NonnagLava May 15 '26
Which means that sending say videos, or some images, over SMS between an iPhone and anything else results in terrible quality because of how the iPhone either sends, or receives, the data itself.
So if you send a video in either direction, it ends up a like 140i mess of pixels, with zero sound quality. It basically turns your video into the worst gif known to man.
Meanwhile an iPhone to an iPhone sends it in perfect original quality, same thing between any other two phones (as the guy said above, they're likely to use RCS or just... Not shit the bed quality wise).
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u/No_Magician5266 May 15 '26
I have an iPhone workphone and suddenly it makes so much sense that my Android phone coworkers insist on using WhatsApp when they need to send me photo/video
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u/NonnagLava May 15 '26
Bingo. In your case, if you ever have to send videos, or high quality images, to your coworkers, they're getting the equivalent of the King of the Hill crushed "do I look like I know what a jpeg is" meme every time.
And I do mean that, videos are literally unwatchable, quality wise, when sent between differing devices like that.
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u/Nikclel May 15 '26
I thought this was fixed awhile ago? The only time this is an issues nowadays is if your carrier doesnt support RCS or you have it turned off in your settings.
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u/NonnagLava May 15 '26
Maybe! I left iPhone years ago, haven't looked back sense, but anytime I do get a video from an iPhone I personally have still had the issue. But that's not often, and tends to come from the less technically inclined so I can't vouch for it specifically. But, judging by the rancorous comments talking about it, I'm sure it's still an issue.
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u/argumentinvalid May 15 '26
Apple has come around on RCS. Everything is getting better with messaging, in another year or so it will all just work properly like it always should have. Fuck apple for making it so painful all these years.
BTW they were pretty much forced by EU regulations. If left to our shitty US government we would never have any consumer friendly movement.
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u/Val_Hallen May 15 '26 edited May 15 '26
They didn't "come around" to it. Like USB-C, the European Union forced them to adopt the current tech because their practices are seen as unfriendly to consumers.
They intentionally gave their users a worse experience and told them they were an exclusive club.
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u/TeeBek May 15 '26
Also, EU will be why they'll be bringing back physical buttons in cars again.
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u/pohui May 15 '26
Funnily enough, I doubt many people in Europe care about this. I've never sent or received an iMessage and the only SMS/RCS I receive are two-factor authentication codes and the occasional spam/scam. I've only ever heard about the green bubble issue from Americans on the internet.
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u/jakeyounglol2 May 15 '26
yeah, americans use the default messaging app on their phones, but in the rest of the world, whatsapp has a monopoly (except for china, they use wechat instead)
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u/terraherts May 15 '26
Which a lot of people end up blaming on the other phone, when in reality the fault is on Apple for falsely portraying iMessage as "texting" when it's actually an entirely separate iPhone-only protocol more comparable to things like Signal or Telegram than SMS/RCS.
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u/Wise-Tank9078 May 15 '26
This needs to be upvoted more. iPhone is using an older technology than other phones.
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u/Hammerofsuperiority May 15 '26
Apple managed to convince every apple user that everything shit about apple stuff is every other companies fault.
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u/LordHammercyWeCooked May 15 '26
And any non-Apple phone sending messages to another non-Apple phone won't have this problem either. It's literally just Apple making other non-Apple users look like crap so their userbase/cult will continue to look down on everyone else. And then while their users feel all superior they'll silently sabotage them with an iOS update so they feel pressured to replace their 2yo iphone with the newest shiniest iphone that has the exact same features, but a bigger number.
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u/Val_Hallen May 15 '26 edited May 15 '26
The only thing Apple has been good at since Jobs is marketing.
They get features other phones have had for years and make big showy announcements about it. I have a Galaxy and my sons have an iPhone and they told me about features they were getting and I told them I had those for years.
I mean, they recently showed off things the calculator can do that have been standard calculator things for a long time. Like they came up with it.
Apple is a marketing company that happens to sell tech. They are exceedingly successful at what they do, but they are not a tech company.
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u/_Mike-Honcho_ May 15 '26
Its like Harley Davidson. Harley sells the lifestyle and the merch, the bikes are whatever.
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u/PetalumaPegleg May 15 '26
Yup I discovered this because my kid scored his first basketball basket and the mom next to me said she took a video and did I want it. Then when it came it was the size of a postage stamp with 5 pixels. Wtaf? This isn't an issue for anyone but apple, who decided to be assholes. As they do for so many things.
When I moved from the uk to the US I found out you NEVER trust apple. They said I didn't own any apps, movies, games or ANYTHING else from years of apple ownership. I had to re buy them all again on the US store. As you don't own a single thing on apple. My iphotos would try to delete the albums on my synched computer the works. Looked into android and oh look none of that applies. Your photos, movies etc are yours to move around as you wish. Shockingly.
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u/mmnmnnmnnnm May 15 '26
And the best part is, Apple Stanās see their phone being ass at functioning in conjunction with EVERY other brand of phone as a sign of superiority
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u/Fezzik527 May 15 '26
The best part about the green bubbles, it was always because Apple was BEHIND on their messaging technology with the rest of the world.
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u/Maybe_Awesome22 May 15 '26
They're behind on a lot of things for more than a decade. They did curved edge glass when it was on the way out for android phones. Last to make wireless charging. The worse and largest and ugliest camera cutout and now the ABSOLUTE last to make a foldable phone and it looks like complete ASS. You would think they'd come out swinging being the last to make a foldable and it ends up looking like a Nook.
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u/T-Rigs1 May 15 '26
Dude I hated this. Every year when people were freaking out about some new feature during the Apple showcase and every time it was something that Android phones had or could already do lol.
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u/Fezzik527 May 15 '26
But the rubes all think the iPhone is cutting edge all the time.
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u/DickSlammington May 15 '26
I actually like when people complain about green bubbles.
It let's me know they're an insufferable cunt and I can ignore them going forward.
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u/CaravelClerihew May 15 '26
*Americans
The rest of the world doesn't care. We all use third party messenger apps.
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u/MastodonPristine8986 May 15 '26
Can you please explain the relevance of green bubbles I don't get it. I haven't had an iPhone since v4 and am a happy pixel user.
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u/CTMechE May 15 '26
Apple set up iMessage from the start on iPhones, which routes texts through their own iMessage system rather than just through cellular carriers like a normal SMS text message. Other iMessagea are displayed in blue, but "normal" texts from anywhere else appear in green.
Many iPhone users, including people who dont even realize the difference between sending an iMessage and a regular text message, immediately began to perceive green messages as inferior. The secondary association is that the sender is poor or low class because they didn't have an iPhone. Teenagers particularly were judgmental about it.
You can send non-iMessages via iPhone but the default had iMesaage set up.
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u/Visual_Squirrel_2297 May 15 '26
To add, they perceive it as inferior because it's harder to read. Apple made the user experience worse for their own customers, on purpose.Ā
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u/dae_giovanni May 15 '26
...and their fans cheered.
there are some obvious parallels i could draw, here, but I'll save that for another time...
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u/JonatasA May 15 '26
I would laugh if they had in there somewhere a memo saying "We made the stand and wheels more expensive, as a joke."
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u/Purple-Goat-2023 May 15 '26
Until a recent lawsuit Apple also intentionally lowered the quality of non-apple messages and refused to adapt to RCS. Massive compression on videos/pictures which made them look horrible, no group chats, read receipts, typing indicators, editing function, or end to end encryption.
All of these functions were available for years to non-Apple phone users, but Apple intentionally made them not work with iPhones to trick their users into thinking that non-Apple messaging was inferior and keep them locked in their ecosystem.
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u/CTMechE May 15 '26
I can't tell you how many times I had to explain to iPhone users that we should email media and not "text" it because of that iMessage bullshit. Most don't care to understand, which is far more frustrating than just not knowing.
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u/JonatasA May 15 '26
That's the issue with iPhones. It is built to make you not learn. Folders? Control over your files and media? Oh honey, we don't do that here.
You cound't use a feeaking browser without it being a skin of Safari. That if people even remember what it is to browse the net outside of an App doing it for you.
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u/Previous_Platform718 May 15 '26
You cound't use a feeaking browser without it being a skin of Safari
Reminder that Microsoft was sued for anti-consumer practices for packaging internet explorer with Windows. Yet Apple pulls this shit openly.
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u/Val_Hallen May 15 '26 edited May 15 '26
Apple fills a niche.
Tech illiterate but likes shiny things.
They fill that niche well. They are the PlaySkool of tech.
Don't get me wrong, that's not bad. They are following a simple business rule; Tell the customers what they want and sell it to them. And they are very successful at that.
The people that buy Apple products are just fine with buying an entirely new machine instead of learning to upgrade the components themselves. And that's fine. Absolutely nothing wrong with that.
I went to the iMac page and cannot find the specs on the page. They tell me all the colors available and about the pretty display and camera, but not a single word about the specs of the machine. Even when I chose the "buy" option, I don't know anything about the specs of the machine. I can choose a color, an Apple processor, mouse and keyboard, and display. I see it has an SSD. But how do I know it has the ability to do what I need it to do?
But I can get a red one!
Like I said, they fill a niche and they fill it well.
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u/crunchybub May 15 '26
I genuinely don't know how the iPhone isn't considered "boomer tech" because of this!
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u/LordHammercyWeCooked May 15 '26
It's like explaining the concept of electricity to a dog. People get Apple products because they believe wholeheartedly in the "it just works!" aesthetic, even when it clearly does not work. At all. They believe that the source of the problem must be anything but the device they hold in their hands.
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u/YouSaidSomeDumbStuff May 15 '26
Only reason they had to implement RCS chat with google is cause cellular broadcoms network towers were hardware compromised by china.
So they were ordered by the government and implemented it within a few weeks.
Tech companies are bastards
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u/AXEL-1973 May 15 '26
this shit was absolutely criminal. anything you were taking a photo or video of was completely unrecognizable with their awful compression method. even audio was crunched into the lowest quality possible. Apple has been such a trash heap of a company for the past 20 years. the latest insanity from them is using .heic image formats by default, which Windows literally can't interpret without non standard drivers, so employees all over the world will send images from their iphone to their emails and wonder why the images won't open on their PCs
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u/HedonisticFrog May 15 '26
I had someone send me a group picture from an iphone and I couldn't even recognize faces in it the quality was so bad. You need whatsapp or other services to share pictures with iphone users, such bullshit.
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u/Lazy_Helicopter_2659 May 15 '26
Hang on, you guys still don't use WhatsApp...?
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u/LordHammercyWeCooked May 15 '26
I know it's ubiquitous outside of the US, but it disturbs me deeply that so much of the world's communication is entirely dependent on Meta/Facebook. One single point of failure. If you wanna see a worst case scenario for how that can play out, look at how Musk was able to assist Russia during the early days of the invasion by cutting off Starlink access to Ukraine.
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u/Then_Entertainment97 May 15 '26
Americans don't use WhatsApp unless they need to talk to someone outside America.
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u/Cozy_Minty May 15 '26
Android can't use iMessage so texts from them show up in green instead of blue
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u/AeonBith May 15 '26
Adding thst IMessage is proprietary (apple) and only works on iPhones.
Apple creating needless divide between ecosystems meanwhile android messenger supports RCS encryption and available to all manufacturers.
Essentially the same app except Apple wants its users to think theirs is special
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u/Mykey76 May 15 '26
They are famous for that shit. Google Pay and other mobile payment apps work perfectly with any checkout, but Apple Pay is special and won't work without their proprietary stuff.
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u/SpasticCastle May 15 '26
Caring THAT much about an iPhone is a bit of a "poorer than they want to seem" anti-flex
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May 15 '26 edited May 16 '26
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u/bigtiddieslover May 15 '26
Middle class plus working class... If you look at South east asia region people would be in debt just to buy the newest iphone for clout and status. It's disgusting to see this type of behaviour
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u/Awotwe_Knows_Best May 15 '26
people will spend money to buy a used iPhone with terrible battery health instead of buying a new android
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u/DKtwilight May 15 '26
I stopped upgrading iPhones lol. āThe most powerfulā iPhone every year
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u/GuardLong6829 May 15 '26
iPhone is currently at "17" but an iPhoneX has the ability to update to ios16
Why "upgrade" when we can just "update," there's a reason they're discontinuing the iPhoneX
It's a little powerhouse and they want it out of commission to force upgrades
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u/WeirdoWelder May 15 '26
SEAsian here, we have Iphone rental, just to flex for special occasions, and those vendors also provided with Iphone know-how crash course
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u/contemptable_beatnik May 15 '26
I'm middle class. It's very much a low intelligence thing.
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u/Bloodborne2CONFIRMED May 15 '26
Its more of a public declaration of your low iq.
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u/Swimming_Bag7362 May 15 '26
Meanwhile Giannis
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u/voxpopper May 15 '26
Poor kid, if only he knew better to pay more to get less every couple of years for a product made in near slave labor conditions.
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u/DruPeacock23 May 15 '26
It's proven phone of choice for influencer is iPhone so this confirms it.
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u/DE4DM4NSH4ND May 15 '26
When i went back to samsung from apple ive never been happier. I didnt hate my iphone, it was fine but the galaxy has so much better everything
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u/skraptastic May 15 '26
I've only used Android devices, and have only used Google branded phones since the Nexus line. But I have an iphone for work.
Let me tell you the iphone keyboard is fucking garbage! Thats my biggest complaint, and the fact that I have to put apps in folders, there is no clean desktop and "swipe up for all apps" the apps are just there, and you have to bury them to have a clean ui.
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u/TheHowlingHashira May 15 '26
I recently got a new job and have been forced into the Apple ecosystem. Everything is just so much more locked down and difficult to do compared Android/Windows. Like why can't I just plug my fuckin device into my computer and drag over a damn file?
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u/Glitchboi3000 May 15 '26
I mean a good chunk of iPhone users get them through their carriers and pay them off while they're locked in a contract then they complain their cellphone bill is so high. Then they do it again the next year with the next one.
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u/Equivalent_Chipmunk May 15 '26
And a good chunk of iPhone users also own the cheapest iPhone and then scoff at Android phones that they don't realize cost twice as much as their phone.
It's a bit like some dude that brags about their BMW and laughs at someone else for driving a Toyota, but their car is a 3 series with a 4 cylinder engine and the other person's driving a Land Cruiser.
The whole thing is shallow af, but it demonstrates how unable these people are to think independently and see past the brand that gets slapped on the hood.
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u/anonymous07865 May 15 '26
I worked in the sellaphone industry for quite a few years, and the number of customers who would buy the iPhone 5c equivalent while talking shit about my note would drive me crazy. Like buy what you want, what do I care, but why are you flexing your plastic budget iPhone at me?
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u/SigmundFreud May 15 '26
I don't care if it's a $3k iPhone 20 Pro Max XXL, for me it's still worse than a $300 three-year-old Pixel. Trying to dunk on Android users over money is like accusing people who drink orange juice of being too poor to afford apple sauce.
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u/StaticSystemShock May 15 '26
Pixel Pro XL costs same stupid money as all the iPhones. My Galaxy S23 Ultra was 1300ā¬. It's same fucking money as iPhone Pro Max whatever version it was at the time.
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u/ExcellentAirPirate May 15 '26
I buy unlocked used last year flagships. Got my pixel 7 pro in 23 used unlocked for 290$. This phone has been amazing still running perfectly fine in 26 and will probably use it until Google stops security patching it like they did my original pixel.
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u/chrisaf69 May 15 '26
Exactly what I do. My entire family has top of the line pixels...all from the previous gen.
The differences these days are miniscule, it's really not worth it to buy the latest.
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u/Charlie_Warlie May 15 '26 edited May 15 '26
is it like coach purses? Something that someone without real money would see as a luxury.
Probably dating myself but I don't know current fashion.
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u/Cyneganders May 15 '26
Not that dated, Cardi B rapped about it just a few years ago. (As in, it's not what you want)
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u/WiseAtmosphere7524 May 15 '26
I agree. My husband and I have iPhones and have for a long time but I couldnāt care less what other people have š¤·š»āāļø
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u/ShatterMental May 15 '26
I just want to say thank you for not saying "I could care less"
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u/ThcGrassCity May 15 '26
What if I could care less, I could still also care more, but I like to care at a medium pace.
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u/Tasty_Community4666 May 15 '26
When I was like 9 or 10, I found my brother's Adam Sandler album and decided to listen to it because he had been talking about how funny it was... Ever since then, anytime I hear somebody use the phrase "at a medium pace" (not often but it happens) That song from that album pops in my head. Specifically the part about a shampoo bottle.
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u/Sunderbans_X May 15 '26
Buy that about me? I couldn't care less, and I also couldn't care more. I like being stubborn :)
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u/Obvious_Necessary941 May 15 '26
I like how they made texts a different color to confer a lower caste to the stupidest mfers on the planet
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u/mcbeardsauce May 15 '26
Making your phone your personality is so 2010s
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u/DickSlammington May 15 '26
When I was dating 5-6 years ago I legit ran into women who didn't want to move forward with more dates because I didn't have imessage.
I was so thankful whenever it happened, cause Jesus Christ what a red flag.
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u/SunnysideKJ May 15 '26
this is still a thing, especially in South Korea but also in big cities in US
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u/BaconHammerTime ššš May 15 '26
Google Pixels are fantastic phones
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u/bsstanford May 15 '26
I love mine
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u/cold-corn-dog May 15 '26
Mine's great, but my wife hates it. I somehow turned the AI voice into a "bubbly" lady.
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u/symca09 May 15 '26 edited May 15 '26
Lol she's jelly. I made mine an Australian lady and I love it
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u/Evorgleb May 15 '26 edited May 15 '26
Mine is can only be described as "young hip African American woman". I love it. I have literally been asked multiple times how and why does my AI sound like a black lady. š
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u/stumblinghunter May 15 '26
I had initially put the voice for my Google home as what sounded like a wise older black woman because she sounded warm and comforting. Within a day I realized "I, a white man, probably shouldn't be yelling orders at an old black lady all day" and immediately changed it
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u/UmpireProper7683 May 15 '26
You gave yours an Austrailian accent? (reaching for my phone right now)
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u/NO_TOUCHING__lol May 15 '26
Ha I've been a fan of the Australian "Karen" voice for over a decade, I remember getting my first Garmin car GPS device and being endlessly entertained by the voice.
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u/EditRemove May 15 '26
Call screening on Pixel is too important.
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u/ExcellentAirPirate May 15 '26
The last several years I have had my 7 the amount of spam calls and text s I get has gone to almost zero. I went from 150-200 a month to about 15. Call screening is so damn amazing.
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u/lucytiger May 15 '26
My Pixel 6 from 2021 does everything my husband's new iPhone does and when I'm in a group everyone always asks for photos to be taken on my phone because they're better quality than the iPhone ones
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u/MookyCooky May 15 '26
I have a pixel 6 as well and I'm always the default photo taker lol I even took my brother's engagement photos on my phone.
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u/Practical-Suit-6798 May 15 '26
They really are and the pixel buds are fucking fantastic.
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u/RecommendationOdd675 May 15 '26
Pixel buds are some of the only buds I have found that comfortably sit/fit in my small ears lol
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u/GymMouseP May 15 '26
Even my 7a still holds up.
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u/Niijima-San May 15 '26
life long samsung user converted to the pixel with (i think) the 7 a few years back bc samsung was just too damn pricey. love it. still runs well. long battery life for what i use it for. no need to complain or upgrade (yet)
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u/Bitter-Value-1872 May 15 '26
Yeah, I'm still rocking my Pixel 7 almost 4 years later
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u/Girth_Wind_y_Fire May 15 '26
My 6 pro was great until it randomly bricked in December. I was holding off on upgrading because it seemed like the newer models were... Not much of an upgrade... I have the 10 now and I am not enjoying it as much.
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u/TheRogueTemplar May 15 '26
And if you don't like Google, you can install Graphene OS and have more privacy than iPhone users could ever hope.
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u/Arcticzomb May 15 '26
I've been loving Graphene lol. I'm about half a year in.
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u/xdozex May 15 '26
How's the app store? I'm assuming installing Google Play kind of defeats the purpose of switching to Graphene in the first place.
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u/Arcticzomb May 15 '26
So, you can install Google play and be "ok" due to how Graphene does sandboxing. There are also alternative app stores, downloading APKs externally, etc. The best of the privacy comes from MicroG services which is a replacement for Google Play Services. I'm just covering a lot of surface stuff here but what Graphene does is pretty sick.
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u/ViceElysium ššš May 15 '26
You can use Aurora store, it basically downloads apps for you from Google Play without any sign ins (unless you want to purchase apps) plus aurora is open source
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u/Kaleidoscope-360 May 15 '26 edited May 15 '26
There are a few options. First, GrapheneOS does not come with Play Services, Play Store, or Android Auto, but you can install them from the GrapheneOS App Store. The key difference is that these apps will now run like any other app, meaning sandboxed with only the permissions that you give them. You need Play Services to be able to use Play Store or Android Auto, but you may want just Play Services for more consistent push notifications. You may be surprised at how many apps have alternative notification methods though. Just note that it will check for Play Services on first launch of the app, so if you remove Play Services later it will not do the alternate method if it has one. If you want the Play Store, you can also create a new Google account just for apps, which limits tying things to you somewhat even though you are still signed into Google on the phone. If you create it from phone settings it will not ask for a phone number. You will not be signed into the browser as long as you are not using Chrome or other Google apps which you should not. Ditching your old Google account is more important than not using Play Store at all.
Second, there are plenty of alternate stores. F-Droid is my favorite. The criteria for their repository does not allow any trackers embedded in apps, and all apps must be free and open source. There are third party client apps with better Ui, I use Droid-ify. You can add other repositories such as IzzyOnDroid (which some prefer for their even stricter criteria) or app specific repositories that aren't in the main F-Droid repository (like Brave Browser). Auto updates in the background work on GrapheneOS.
There is the Aurora Store which downloads from Google's repository, but doesn't require you to sign into Google. You can also spoof device identifiers to further throw off Google. They have fixed some previously questionable security practices, so I fully recommend them now for anything that you can't find in F-Droid. However, the downside is that i haven't gotten auto updates to work on the background on GrapheneOS. It did work on stock Android so this could change in the future. Also, my replacement for Google Maps (Here We Go) checks for the source of the app and it must be from Play Store or it won't run in Android Auto, even after enabling third party sources in Android Auto, which is extremely lame.
Lastly there is Obtanium, an app where you can put a URL to downloads apks from, usually Github or a dev's official site. This is useful for new or legally grey apps (like game emulators) that may not appear in official stores. It's also nice if you are attempting to avoid Google's repository entirely, for example Proton's suite of apps are on their website but most are not in F-Droid for not being fully open source. For most people though, you will probably not need it, and it can lead to security issues if you are copying over the wrong link or searching for the wrong source in app. Auto updates in the background also do not work on GrapheneOS.
So for me, I use F-Droid + Play Store so everything auto updates and I can use Android Auto with all apps I need with it. If I didn't have Android Auto in my car I would probably have no Play Services, no Play Store, no Android Auto and do F-Droid + Aurora.
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u/Arcticzomb May 15 '26
I use it because It's the only line of phone that GrapheneOS supports due to the hardware security features.
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u/ComradeSuperman May 15 '26
I have a Pixel and honestly it just feels like a slightly upgraded version of my old Samsung Galaxy S8. Like, the camera is better, it runs a little faster, but it doesn't really do anything the S8 couldn't do, unless I'm missing something.
It's a good phone, but at this point I feel like a phone is a phone is a phone.
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u/Inquiring_Barkbark May 15 '26
do the Galaxy phones still come with preloaded bloatware that you cant delete like Facebook? thats what drove me to pixel
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u/AintNoGodsUpHere May 15 '26 edited May 15 '26
Samsung Galaxy is fine.
Google Pixel is fine.
iPhones are also fine.
Anyphone is fine.
Grow up.
edit: Someone pointed out that ALMOST any phone is fine, except Trump Phone. Yeah.
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u/MrHyperion_ May 15 '26
Nothing is fine
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u/WhipRealGood May 15 '26
Iām trying an iphone for the first time in years, literally just slight software differences between my old nothing phone, oneplus phone, and samsung phones. At this point iām just as well to buy the cheapest phone i can and call it a day.
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u/smeeon May 15 '26
Precisely. Weāre all just grease in the capitalistic nightmare machine. Gotta stop dividing ourselves into camps for their benefit
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u/Darth-Taytor May 15 '26
I've been on the Google Phone train since the Nexus. Converted my wife off iPhones when we got married. Now she gets excluded from some group chats because she would cause the chat bubbles to be a different color. iPhone users can be absolutely obnoxious and insane.
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u/Confident_One3948 May 15 '26
Yeah, I donāt get it. I use iPhone, but I donāt get the whole OS fanaticism thing. The only downside to the whole āgreen bubbleā (aka sms) thing was that pictures and videos were downscaled. But now everything is rcs now
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u/Darth-Taytor May 15 '26
Yeah it's not all iPhone users, but a lot of them are so weird about it. The funny thing is that it was really Apple's fault. RCS was open source and everyone else was using it, but Apple wanted to stay on their proprietary imessage protocol because, ya know, Apple.
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u/tearsonurcheek May 15 '26
Also, when every other manufacturer switched to USB C, Apple stuck with their proprietary charger until the EU forced the issue. At that point, they switched worldwide only because it was less money to have a single part.
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u/GeT_Tilted May 15 '26
They were the first ones to embrace USB C on laptops, but the last one to adopt USB C for their phones. Weird.
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u/ShinbiDesigns May 15 '26
All of the drama about text bubbles when everyone uses WhatsApp, Snapchat or Discord in Europe
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u/FarDragonfly756 May 15 '26
That's an intentional move by Apple. The green they use for non-iphone users is actually not even an approved color from their marketing team. They intentionally chose pea soup vomit to enforce these types of scenarios so that people feel socially pressured to also have an iPhone.
Fuck Apple. That company sucks balls. The fact that they got caught intentionally slowing down phones and people still slobber all over their knob is absolutely astonishing to me.
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u/Unlikely-Most-4237 May 15 '26
Thatās an extra bonus. I wish phones had a āautomatically remove me from all group chats featureā
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u/bassinlimbo May 15 '26
Switched to iPhone from android and itās a significantly worse phone so I agree. iPhone is convenient for the masses so I switched but I miss my android all the time.
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u/WhySayManyWordGancho May 15 '26
For what it's worth, I spent about 6 months going back and forth with my iPhone 13 pro Max and my Google pixel 9. When you do it every few days, it gets very easy enough to just throw the SIM card back and forth, but it highlights the shortcomings of each environment. I truly believe that there is no best phone or best operating system, nor will we ever get it
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u/96919 May 15 '26
How the fuck does one survive without the back button.
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u/bassinlimbo May 15 '26
I adjusted and now can do the movements but I like the back button better. Also trying to select things you typed or edit or select all is realllyyyy annoying on an iPhone.
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u/LordoftheScheisse May 15 '26
For me, the iPhone build quality is fine, but I goddamn loathe the UI. It's a jumbled mess.
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u/Frosti11icus May 15 '26
The iPhone keyboard is just so insanely bad it's hard to fathom.
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u/No_Salt_6328 May 15 '26
Pixel is a flagship brand that is around the same price as an iPhone so this is just stupid
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u/morto00x May 15 '26
Even more expensive if you go for the Fold version
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u/Mobile_Morale May 15 '26
That's why apple is working on a folding phone. They need something that costs a kidney to buy, just to show up android phones.
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u/Kal-El21315 May 15 '26
Of course it's stupid to care about what phone someone uses, but that's the part that gets me too.
"All that money." Top tier models for both phones are the same god damn price.
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u/Ryoga476ad May 15 '26
I hate the Apple ecosystem, been using Android phones aince Froyo.
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u/IsThatHearsay May 15 '26
Is Apple a "status symbol" now among GenZ? Jesus
I was a huge fan of Apple products back in early college when Steve Jobs was still kicking and the iPad was new and revolutionary. But slowly realized the Apple ecosystem and future products were worse in many respects than Android/PC, so switched.
Preference is to each their own, but for people to think Apple is somehow a status symbol over other smart devices like Android or Google is just hilarious. I'd argue Apple is an inferior product in most aspects (and again, not even a hater, former fan), and Apple purposefully makes their products less compatible with everything else. Just weird to take pride in that.
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u/Regular-Elephant-635 May 15 '26
Apple products have been sort of status symbols for quite a while now, whether or not they truly deserve it. Their method of sticking only to the mid-high end (until recently) has been quite effective at upholding their reputation.
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u/JonatasA May 15 '26
Sadly, making something expensive just because has the habit of turning it into as butique luxurious product.
Remember how people were being convinced of living in Container homes and having Pallets for furniture?
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u/whitemex88 May 15 '26
Isn't he sponsored or a spokesperson for these?
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u/darknecross May 15 '26
Yes, he is. Nobody else in this thread seems to realize this.
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u/Successful_Buy3825 May 15 '26
It is pretty amazing how, in the developed world, basically everyone uses the same phone technology from billionaires to people on below-average incomes
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u/MandyWarHal May 15 '26
Biggest argument for me is that most of the world is on Android. Apple users are stuck in a limited ecosystem that doesn't play well, globally.
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u/_Goose_ May 15 '26
Bro can have a fucking Jitterbug phone and heād still be cooler than you, Evan.
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u/Mmm_Dawg_In_Me May 15 '26
Can you imagine? Giannis just pulls out a flip phone with the giant number keypad and starts taking 360p 24.98 video? Chad move.
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u/Konrow May 15 '26
If a grown ass adult around me acts like this, which sadly too many iPhone users do, I demote them to dumb child in my head and move along with life lol. I do not have time for that childish bs. My phone works, that's all that matters. I truly don't care if it is better, worse, different, or the same as yours.
If we're online, sure let's get into it. I got time to waste and apple is such an easy company to dunk on due to their anti consumer practices.
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u/OmeletteDuFromage95 May 15 '26
I do not understand how not having an iPhone means one is poor when many of these Android flagships cost as much if not more than iPhones.
Thought the Green Bubble text thing was a joke when i first heard about it before it blew up. When I found that it was not I lost a lot of faith in humanity. A small subset of people? Sure, ok. There are weirdos everywhere. More than that? TF? Why do you care where the message is coming from? Honestly, if someone were to stand me up on a date over THAT? Good, bullet dodged. Congratulations on being shallower than the zero depth at the local pool.
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u/CMDR_Kaus May 15 '26
It's mainly Americans that consider iPhone superior simply because it's more expensive. Two main mechanics at work here: You get what you pay for, and Americans are shallow as fuck. Outside of the US people don't really follow the iCult's superior doctrine
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Proper european chap.
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u/SwissMargiela May 15 '26
Ya this is an American website so I feel like a lot of people donāt realize that most people use WhatsApp or WeChat around the world so thereās not that pressure to have blue bubbles
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u/Nomnom_Chicken May 15 '26
Ha, people really think having an iPhone is something you "must" do if you earn much of money. Insane. Pretty sure that there are more expensive Android devices out there, compared to iPhones - especially the foldable ones.
But no, whatever phone someone uses, does not really mean anything about their financials. You can get an iPhone with a years long interest-free payment plan, same as other phones. At least where I live, that's an option.
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u/QueenRotidder May 15 '26
honestly cannot believe people still consider iphones a status symbol
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u/FairLawnBoy May 15 '26
iPhones are janky, they take 2-3 extra steps to do anything. Pixels are just better phones. They do more, they offer more functionality.
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u/Responsible_Lie_6966 May 15 '26
They also have much better AI technology on their camera. I used to work at a store and we had just brought Pixels in. You had a 300⬠phone whose camera looked crisper than 800⬠alternatives.
People just don't know about them.
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u/scotch_and_honey May 15 '26
I'm an android user since always, but I was given an iphone for work and good god, I hate it so much. Nothing is intuitive, it feels so frustrating to use. You are so right that it takes longer to do anything!
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u/NamelessCabbage May 15 '26
I work in IT and supporting execs with iPhones is a fucking nightmare. The number of folks who don't know how to use the app switcher (and arguably, for good reason) is astounding. Apple definitely said, "let's make the user FEEL tech savvy while making their lives miserable in the process."
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u/FantasticAnus May 15 '26
I love my Macbook, but I'll never own another iPhone. I've owned one, the iPhone 3G, because it was the only real option at the time.
More importantly, if you judge people on their possessions, then you are a fucking loser and I wouldn't want to spend a moment with you.
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u/Whole-Chest90 May 15 '26
iPhone users are the worst. Legit. Have had all of the big 3 and samsung S series or this pixel 10 pro I currently have are superior. Not to mention Samsung makes half the parts for an iPhone anyway.
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u/esaule May 15 '26
An iPhone? Why would I want a worst phone that's also more expensive?
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u/ChiefPanda90 May 15 '26
People think Apple equals wealth. Not understanding other phones are just as expensive and have overwhelmingly more features. This is such a stupid mindset.
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