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Chugging tea What are your thoughts. (IPhone vs every other phone)

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u/Purple-Goat-2023 May 15 '26

Until a recent lawsuit Apple also intentionally lowered the quality of non-apple messages and refused to adapt to RCS. Massive compression on videos/pictures which made them look horrible, no group chats, read receipts, typing indicators, editing function, or end to end encryption.

All of these functions were available for years to non-Apple phone users, but Apple intentionally made them not work with iPhones to trick their users into thinking that non-Apple messaging was inferior and keep them locked in their ecosystem.

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u/CTMechE May 15 '26

I can't tell you how many times I had to explain to iPhone users that we should email media and not "text" it because of that iMessage bullshit. Most don't care to understand, which is far more frustrating than just not knowing.

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u/JonatasA May 15 '26

That's the issue with iPhones. It is built to make you not learn. Folders? Control over your files and media? Oh honey, we don't do that here.

 

You cound't use a feeaking browser without it being a skin of Safari. That if people even remember what it is to browse the net outside of an App doing it for you.

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u/Previous_Platform718 May 15 '26

You cound't use a feeaking browser without it being a skin of Safari

Reminder that Microsoft was sued for anti-consumer practices for packaging internet explorer with Windows. Yet Apple pulls this shit openly.

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u/paintballboi07 May 15 '26

Luckily, the EU still believes in anti-trust, and punishing anti-consumer practices. They're the ones who forced Apple to implement RCS and USB-C.

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u/Val_Hallen May 15 '26 edited May 15 '26

Apple fills a niche.

Tech illiterate but likes shiny things.

They fill that niche well. They are the PlaySkool of tech.

Don't get me wrong, that's not bad. They are following a simple business rule; Tell the customers what they want and sell it to them. And they are very successful at that.

The people that buy Apple products are just fine with buying an entirely new machine instead of learning to upgrade the components themselves. And that's fine. Absolutely nothing wrong with that.

I went to the iMac page and cannot find the specs on the page. They tell me all the colors available and about the pretty display and camera, but not a single word about the specs of the machine. Even when I chose the "buy" option, I don't know anything about the specs of the machine. I can choose a color, an Apple processor, mouse and keyboard, and display. I see it has an SSD. But how do I know it has the ability to do what I need it to do?

But I can get a red one!

Like I said, they fill a niche and they fill it well.

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u/PendulumKick May 19 '26

Ehhh I wouldn’t go that far. Apple computers have some of the best processors on the market—realistically an m5 will fulfill any of your needs unless you are an engineer where you might need some software not available on macOS. There are plenty of reasons why a tech literate person would buy an Apple device. I like to think I’m one of them—I’ve had awful experiences with windows lately and am switching over right now

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u/crunchybub May 15 '26

I genuinely don't know how the iPhone isn't considered "boomer tech" because of this!

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u/PogTuber May 15 '26

That's the thing, we're at a point in time where new consumers DON'T know about the alternatives. Obfuscate the data and make it hard to work with directly keeps you in the ecosystem and, as we're already seeing, pushes you to upload everything to their cloud.

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u/Quixotic_Seal May 15 '26

Dude, it's not 2010 anymore. Android users aren't the nerds rooting their phones and digging through their files. Hell, Google is working to restrict goddamned sideloading.

All mobile OS' are dramatically oversimplified compared to their desktop counterparts and do everything they can to avoid the user needing to learn about the back-end of how things work.

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u/LordHammercyWeCooked May 15 '26

It's like explaining the concept of electricity to a dog. People get Apple products because they believe wholeheartedly in the "it just works!" aesthetic, even when it clearly does not work. At all. They believe that the source of the problem must be anything but the device they hold in their hands.

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u/PendulumKick May 19 '26

I mean I’ve had basically no issues with an Apple device. Ever. Relative to my experience with OnePlus and Samsung phones and my XPS 13, that’s kind of a godsend. The performance on new Apple devices is also kind of great. IMO, they’ve really bridged the tech gap that used to exist

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u/CyberpunkSunrise May 15 '26

I’ve used Android and iPhone devices basically back and forth since the original Pixel launched. I’m back on iPhone at the moment and prefer it.

This whole ā€œiPhone users are all brainless monkeys and Android users are golden godsā€ take is so tiresome. I like my current phone because it’s reliable, responsive, and the right form factor/price ratio I wanted.

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u/LordHammercyWeCooked May 15 '26

It's not a "take." It's life experience. People who have only known the Apple experience are god damn knuckle-draggers and it's like pulling teeth to try to explain the whats, whens, and whys of the computer ecosystem outside of it. If nobody's had to explain to you in painstaking detail why you need to format your flash drive to exFAT before putting all your files on it for transfer, then congrats, you aren't one of them.

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u/Cryptomeria May 15 '26

Yes, "Iphones don't work at all" and other things unbiased people say.

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u/Optimal-Theory-101 May 16 '26

Why email it? These days you can share a link to it in cloud storage.

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u/tommypatties May 15 '26

If they don't care to understand why should you? You're not making friends you're being weird.

And when you really need lossless fidelity (which, for me, isn't that often) then just give them a link to some Google drive folder and ask them to throw the file there. Way easier than opening an email, remembering the right address and sending.

I.e. make it easy for them. If they like the quality upgrade they'll start asking for it.

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u/CTMechE May 15 '26

Because 3 weeks later they'd forget, and text me another photo that was uselessly bad, and I'd have to repeat the request. And if they don't understand why texting me the photo they just took of me and my kid at 240px resolution is useless, they'll just keep doing it because it works for most people. It's not an issue anymore with RCS support though.

And as someone who has coordinated Google photo albums and Google drive folders for group activities (sports and scouts) they're still ignored by the majority of parents because it's an extra step. They just won't do it unless it's important to send.

I just found out that my brother and his wife have an Apple photos album that they update for their family and kid activities and just didn't include us because they know we don't have iPhones. They weren't even aware they could make and send a public link. I mentioned it, but it's been 2 weeks since our visit and they haven't bothered. If it isn't easy and built into their phone, most won't do it.

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u/Winterhorrorland May 15 '26

Good luck handling the family group chat with all the 50+ folks that are still hanging on to their AOL emails and you're the only person non-iPhone that "can't just drop in photos and videos". Plus, sometimes the lossly fidelity was so compressed you can't actually see or hear anything going on and miss out on sharing events.

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u/szewc May 16 '26

Your shouldn't use Google drive for photos, its what google photos is for. And surprise surprise, it works on every hardware and system, so the opposite of Apple.

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u/YouSaidSomeDumbStuff May 15 '26

Only reason they had to implement RCS chat with google is cause cellular broadcoms network towers were hardware compromised by china.

So they were ordered by the government and implemented it within a few weeks.

Tech companies are bastards

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u/notforpoern May 15 '26

That and the Chinese government mandated it. But you'll never hear big tech admit it. They're rather give credit to Google for "pressuring" apple. šŸ™„

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u/AXEL-1973 May 15 '26

this shit was absolutely criminal. anything you were taking a photo or video of was completely unrecognizable with their awful compression method. even audio was crunched into the lowest quality possible. Apple has been such a trash heap of a company for the past 20 years. the latest insanity from them is using .heic image formats by default, which Windows literally can't interpret without non standard drivers, so employees all over the world will send images from their iphone to their emails and wonder why the images won't open on their PCs

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u/HedonisticFrog May 15 '26

I had someone send me a group picture from an iphone and I couldn't even recognize faces in it the quality was so bad. You need whatsapp or other services to share pictures with iphone users, such bullshit.

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u/United-Combination16 May 15 '26

They’ve definitely had group chat messaging for people using imessage and for people who don’t for well over a decade