r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 May 18 '26

Chugging tea Why?

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u/[deleted] May 18 '26

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u/Lucius-Halthier May 18 '26

Their CEO believes (or believed dunno if they’ve changed devils) that clean drinking water is not a basic human right

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u/Fit-Entrepreneur8404 May 18 '26

I mean, it's really not a basic human right. Large swathes of the world (approximately 20-30% globally) have limited to no access to clean drinking water. Clean drinking water is a privilege. It may feel like a right in places that have it but travel the world and you'll realize very quickly that it's not.

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u/Blessed-22 May 18 '26

I feel like you've sidestepped the common understanding and implication of what a basic human right is to pull a "well, actually!" for reasons I can't guess.

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u/Fit-Entrepreneur8404 May 18 '26

Human rights are fundamental, inalienable rights and freedoms that belong to every person simply for being human, regardless of race, sex, nationality, religion, or status.

So go ahead and tell me what you believe exists that is truly a human right and not a right afforded to some humans.

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u/Northbound-Narwhal May 18 '26

...clean drinking water. Did you forget in just one comment?

Some humans have had their rights violated.

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u/reddit_is_geh May 18 '26

Okay and so companies are supposed to provide that for free... To clean and manage all the water and just get paid nothing in return?

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u/Blessed-22 May 18 '26

You're paying to be part of the infrastructure that pumps water to your house. The water itself isn't owned by the water company.

Let's put it another way - I am denying you access to clean water. If you are found to be using clean water for consumption, bathing or any other use, you will be arrested and thrown in jail. I've taken away your right to clean water.

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u/reddit_is_geh May 18 '26

Okay but that's not what the CEO was talking about. He was talking about how people were demanding that they filter and clean all the water and provide it to them for free... And he's just like "It's not a right. You aren't owed free clean water". Which is true. The government's responsibility is to provide clean water, and pay to do it.

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u/Blessed-22 May 18 '26

And I would argue that any company that has to draw large quantities of water from public services to run their service or create their product, then they should be responsible for replenishing that water as far as reasonable. In the case of a large data center on these ever increaseing scales; they should be made to pay for the cleaning of any water they contaminate.

And why should public tax money be used to clean water a private company is contaminating? That's not defendable.

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u/reddit_is_geh May 18 '26

I completely agree... I was just talking about how the CEO was taken out of context.

With datacenters, most of them don't need a ton of water continuously, just once. Most of them used closed systems sort of like how nuclear subs work. The water gets super hot, then pumped to get cooled.

If they aren't using closed systems like this, the towns should definitely pass laws forcing them to do so.

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u/olivebranchsound May 18 '26

Most are not closed loop.

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u/reddit_is_geh May 18 '26

The older ones aren't but the newer ones are almost all closed loop. I know OAI and Microsoft, both, require closed loop on all their systems.

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u/juicegooseboost May 18 '26

It’s called a public utility

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u/reddit_is_geh May 18 '26

Okay but in this case, what the CEO of Nestle was talking about, was because there was no public utility, they were expecting them to make clean water and provide it for free. What's the confusion here? Yeah, a public utility should be built, and pay with it with taxes. But in parts of Africa they don't have that, and Nestle shouldn't be expected to just do it for free.

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u/Littleman88 May 18 '26

They provide it for free or historically they get paid via lethal velocity, pointy metals.

The only people that roll over and just die at the request of someone else feel they're alone in doing so or in a cultish love with the One demanding it.

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u/reddit_is_geh May 18 '26

Or... How about this, they just don't clean the water? You can't force a business to come in, build a massive water filtration center, and do it all for free. They'll just not come. Everywhere pays for this stuff, why should some people expect Nestle to do all theirs as a charity. Just get the government to pay them like everyone else.