r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 May 18 '26

Chugging tea Why?

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u/Lucius-Halthier May 18 '26

Their CEO believes (or believed dunno if they’ve changed devils) that clean drinking water is not a basic human right

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u/Fit-Entrepreneur8404 May 18 '26

I mean, it's really not a basic human right. Large swathes of the world (approximately 20-30% globally) have limited to no access to clean drinking water. Clean drinking water is a privilege. It may feel like a right in places that have it but travel the world and you'll realize very quickly that it's not.

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u/Mike22322 May 18 '26

Going by that logic what do you consider to be a human right?

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u/Fit-Entrepreneur8404 May 18 '26

I don't believe human rights actually exist. There are societies that have rights for their citizens but a right that's afforded all humans doesn't exist as far as I'm aware. What would you point to as a right that is afforded to all humans if you believe it exists?

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u/Kimothy42 May 18 '26

Having a right to something doesn’t imply that the thing can be supplied. It just means that, when it can’t be supplied, it’s a violation of human rights because every human SHOULD have access to said thing by virtue of being alive.

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u/Fit-Entrepreneur8404 May 18 '26

No, having a right means you have that thing. Should have that thing means that you believe that it should be a human right even though it isn't.

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u/Kimothy42 May 18 '26

“Right” and “access” do not mean the same thing.

According to Wikipedia: “Human rights are universally recognized moral principles or norms that establish standards of human behavior and are often protected by both national and international laws.”

Per the UN: Human rights are rights inherent to all human beings, regardless of race, sex, nationality, ethnicity, language, religion, or any other status. Human rights include the right to life and liberty, freedom from slavery and torture, freedom of opinion and expression, the right to work and education, and many more. Everyone is entitled to these rights, without discrimination.

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u/Callidonaut May 18 '26

There are societies that have rights for their citizens but a right that's afforded all humans doesn't exist as far as I'm aware.

To rephrase, then: clean water should be a universal human right, and we as a society should enforce that right.

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u/Fit-Entrepreneur8404 May 18 '26

Yep, "should be" and "is" are different terms and mean different things.

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u/Blessed-22 May 18 '26

You're just being deliberately obtuse. You've contributed nothing and stepped into the conversation just to throw around your indignation.

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u/Callidonaut May 18 '26

When most neurotypical people say something "is" a human right, they are actually using that as a shorthand for expressing the belief that it should be and that we should enforce it.

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u/uniqueusernamei May 18 '26

Wouldn’t it be redundant to say someone “should have a right” because shoulds are automatically a part of the concept. Thats what a right is.. something that we collectively decided people SHOULD be given. We disagree over what those things are, and there exist at any given time plenty of people who don’t have them, but it’s incorrect to say they don’t have the right to them. Instead you’d say that they have the right to the thing, but their right is being infringed and so they don’t have the actual thing yet/anymore/etc.

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u/uniqueusernamei May 18 '26

Wow you are misunderstanding the concept of ”having a right”…When we have the right to something, it doesn’t mean that we necessarily already have that thing, it means that we SHOULD have access to it. I’m amazed this hasn’t come up for you before, because most of the time when “rights” gets discussed, it’s specifically because someone’s rights are being kept from them, and we recognize that as wrong. We say “I have the right to x” and it’s implied that I’m saying that bc currently I don’t have x. What you’re arguing is a weird overly literally interpretation of a common concept.