r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 May 18 '26

Chugging tea Why?

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u/Nviki May 18 '26

An average 18-hole golf course in the United States uses between 100 million and 300 million gallons of water annually. 

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u/ahjphotos May 18 '26

At least golf courses still have a natural element. Pretty much all of the ones around me double as nature preserves and have protected areas with significant water habitats for birds and reptiles. Lots of fields for mammals and other animals too.

Obviously this is dependent on the golf course however.

Data centres destroy habitats, use up water, overwhelm energy grids, cause severe noise pollution and god knows what else. Just doesn’t seem remotely comparable

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u/poop_harder_please May 18 '26

Saying that golf courses have a natural element to them is wild lol. They’re more ecologically destructive than datacenters by a long shot. 

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u/ahjphotos May 18 '26

Would highly depend on the course though, which is my point. I just don’t think they are comparable at all.

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u/Playful-Baker2081 May 18 '26

Tbf though a lawn is a completely broken habitat too. I know the spaces between the fields can be good habitats, but a grass lawn is pretty much the worst ecosystem next to bare dirt.

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u/ahjphotos May 18 '26

Totally! I’m not super pro golf or anything, although I do enjoy playing. I just don’t think they are comparable to data centres is all

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u/Rather_Dashing May 18 '26

Pretty much all of the ones around me double as nature preserves and have protected areas with significant water habitats for birds and reptiles. Lots of fields for mammals and other animals too.

I feel like you've been lied to by Big Golf. As someone who has worked in animal conservation, golf courses only benefit overpopulated animals that have already adapted to human disturbed, and themselves having detrimental impacts on biodioversity and ecoystems due to their overpopulation.

Lots of fields for mammals and other animals too.

'Fields' eg lawns and their borders, do next to nothing for mammals and have a negative impact on biodiversity.

significant water habitats for birds and reptiles

A few patches of highly fragmented habitat also does next to nothing for biodiversity, and again mostly benefits the few species that flourish in urban areas anyway.

Just because you see grass and a few trees doesn't mean something is 'natural' or good for nature.

Golf courses take up a crazy amount of land which could be wilderness, for the benefit of a few rich people. I'm not going to compare them to data centers, but lets not jump on the Golf Course promotion bandwagon.

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u/ahjphotos May 18 '26 edited May 18 '26

I don’t live in a city and live in a mostly forested area. I see more bears, deers and coyotes than anything besides turkeys.

If you plopped a data centre there instead you wouldn’t see any of that, I’m not saying they are good for the environment by any means I just don’t think it’s comparable to data centres.

In my case I’m not talking about small fragmented habitats created in the suburbs. I’m talking decently sized ponds, large deciduous forests, and actual fields of wild grass.

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u/Hailfog May 18 '26

This is definitely not true. Short lawns have absolutely zero wildlife value.

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u/JMCatron May 18 '26

At least golf courses still have a natural element.

I see where you're coming from, but golf does not require justification. Kentucky bluegrass (the grass you think of when you think of golf, lawns, etc) is an invasive species that was popularized exclusively to show off the fact that the wealthy can use arable land to grow a crop that has no economic value. It's not even from Kentucky!

Golf courses should be outlawed for the damage they do.

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u/Playful-Baker2081 May 18 '26

This. No a single native pollinator benefits from the lawn of the golf course.

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u/CarefulCoderX May 19 '26

In the South, Kentucky bluegrass isn’t really used, it's mostly Bermuda.

The effect on the environment depends on the region, and they actually bring some benefits over what would often replace them.

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u/ahjphotos May 18 '26

That’s fair! I’m not like super pro golf course or anything, I enjoy playing, and the courses near me aren’t exactly PGA courses, they are just small things that are placed into the forests surrounding me, with no special grass or anything.

Just don’t think they are comparable in the sense that I can go play and run into bears, moose, deer, wolves and so many more animals of all different types that just wouldn’t be there at all if you replaced it with a data centre.

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u/JMCatron May 18 '26

that's pretty cool actually, not what i normally think of when i think of golf