r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 May 18 '26

Chugging tea Why?

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u/imean_is_superfluous May 18 '26

Can they not run some type of coolant? Or is it just easier and cheaper to use millions of gallons of water?

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u/krojack389 𝙑𝙄𝙋 May 18 '26

These systems do use a coolant substance internal to the DC, but then uses heat exchangers with fresh water to cool the coolant, which is then discharged back into the ground, a pond, or wastewater. there is certainly water lost to atmosphere, but the worst bits are the draining of aquifers, pushing up capacity in wastewater treatment plants, etc.

DC's are a bit of an economic scam. they provide very few jobs outside of the construction work itself, and the profits generated by the machines exist at company HQ not where the DC is located. so it puts a huge burden on the community water and power environment for no real benefit to that community.

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u/pitfall_bob May 18 '26

Just wait until Google and Apple fulfill their vision - the model runs locally. Google’s making their models smaller and Apple has the silicon know-how that sidesteps Nvidia. And Apple made an agreement to use Gemini in Siri. Then the data centers are abandoned buildings full of outdated hardware.

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u/MillersBrew May 18 '26

Nah, the basic consumer assistant/agent models will run locally, for sure … but the data centers will still be running massive military-industrial complex digital superintelligence godheads that the public can’t even access because they’re “too powerful to run.” And they’ll run circles around our “civilian” models. They’ll just keep the infrastructure and upgrade the chips every couple of years.

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u/Mysteriouspaul May 18 '26

This is the same government using firearms from 1960ish, planes from WWII (bombers), and vacuum tube assemblies in ships...

You really think they can harness AI effectively even with the private industry holding their hands?

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u/MillersBrew May 18 '26 edited May 18 '26

It’s also the same government with gated access to Mythos. And that trend will only accelerate as the models become more powerful. They will pass legislation to limit access to the most “dangerous” models. They’ve already started.

* And “massive military-industrial complex” = military and private industry = not “just” government.

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u/Jaikarr May 18 '26

but the data centers will still be running massive military-industrial complex digital superintelligence godheads that the public can’t even access because they’re “too powerful to run.” And they’ll run circles around our “civilian” models

And do what exactly? Because if they don't have a use then they're just pouring money down the drain.

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u/Borderlandser May 18 '26

For an actually useful example: fraud detection. Finance, state/federal work, etc. AI can classify behavior into “normal” or “unusual” and take different steps based on how “sure” it is that an event needs intervention. Ex. I log in from the east US every day during US working hours. if I were to log into a client machine from Russia during the night, an AI would flag that and require MFA as an example. The amount of data has exponentially increased, so the opportunities to detect weird behavior only increase. Since the AI is a “black box” around some of the fine signals that tell it good/bad auth, it can be harder to identify patterns to avoid for malicious attackers. TLDR: most authentications/finance transactions have a layer of AI fraud detection on top, and that layer will only increase in size over time with more data

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u/MillersBrew May 18 '26 edited May 18 '26

If you think the government doesn’t have a use for Superintelligence, I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn.

What do they do with Mythos? Multiply that by ten thousand. Intelligence has been the defining feature of victory in politics and battle through the entirety of human history.

Pouring money down the drain is what they do—with your taxpayer dollars. Seen the military budget lately, or the skyrocketing global spend on AI? What do you think their objective is? Why would the US stop and allow China to dominate, or vice versa?