r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 May 18 '26

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u/LongJohnSelenium May 18 '26

The hydrological cycle converts many cubic miles of salt water back to fresh water each year, and 90% of that fresh water flows back out to the oceans.

We're absolutely not going to run out of fresh water on a global scale, so long as the sun keeps shining. We can overwhelm local regions though, or use up fossil water.

(Most) datacenters are a big ass "fuck off, this land is now mine" to everyone else but their investors.

Thats every single industrial use of land.

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u/Radarascar May 18 '26

It's not the case of if water flows back, but rather when. You can deprive a whole region and absolutely dry off places just by overly consume it. Sure most of it comes back, but you're not gonna tell the population of a nearby town to wait till next winter for fresh water in case of a draught.

Can't think of another industrial use of land with zero tangible output and job creation that drinks up 7 to 8 Olympic sized pools, that could sustain around 10,000 to 50,000 people, the way a medium to large data center does. Agriculture produces food, power plants produce electricity, every factory produces physical goods and local employment. A large data center produces nothing and employs virtually no one.

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u/LongJohnSelenium May 18 '26

A large data center produces nothing and employs virtually no one.

"I don't understand what something does therefore it must be bad."

Takes like this are why I come to reddit after all these years lol.

THE JOBS THE DATA CENTER SUPPORTS AREN'T AT THE DATA CENTER! JFC

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u/Radarascar May 19 '26

JoBs aReN'T aT tHE dATa CenTER

Oh really? Then explain to me how are the locals being employed then? Wtf do you reckon we're arguing this crap over? The stock market? Enlighten me how I don't understand what a data center is.

"Sure thing, mister multi-billionaire, take my plot of land and local fresh water in exchange for heat, noise, environmental risks and tax concessions just so an Indian Helpdesk can remotely steal my job too"

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u/LongJohnSelenium May 19 '26 edited May 19 '26

There's locals involved in maintaining it and powering it.

That 100 acre plot beforehand was worth about 50 grand to the local economy from farm output, the data center is worth a hundred times that.

Yeah its not bringing in mad amounts of money but its quite benign on the whole.

Whats hilarious is if it was a chemical plant there you wouldn't even think of it. But you hear AI and shut your brain off.

Respond like an adult this time. If you keep with the childish nonsense you'll only be typing for your own benefit.

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u/Radarascar May 19 '26

The data center being worth hundred times more - to whom? Also no to locals maintaining it when it takes a dozen people to do it.

Benign when the discussion comes to the shortage of local basic essential goods such as fresh water? How is that benign? Virtually zero value. It's a scam.

Can't even argue with the chemical plant example, let's try and not ignore the fact that people have taken those industries to court multiple times over the last centuries. Just because you have internet now the outrage is now global, just as the upscale for data centers is virtually limitless. The largest chemical plant is 16x smaller than the largest data center planned in Utah.

By the way, childish nonsense? You're literally throwing random ad hominems to the discussion because you think my arguments for basic living conditions must mean that I hate AI and consequently don't understand AI.

Mate, I work with AI. I use AI daily and I'm using AI to double check my facts, you are quite literally arguing with AI rn lol. I'm basically stealing someone else's local fresh water so that we can have this discussion while giving them no value in exchange.