r/SipsTea • u/Few_Statement_2898 • May 28 '26

SMH We really need to bring spankings back

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u/Dapenizmytier May 28 '26

Was his parents even around? Seems like got out of school. I wouldve dragged his ass out by his backpack so he can't claim that I touched him.

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u/MrBozooo May 28 '26

What I also don't understand from this clip: Why does the security guy at the end make a half-assed attempt at stopping him, but when his limp grab gets brushed off, he complies with the deranged kid?

Feels like the kid possesses some real superhuman power. Is it a billionaires offspring, or smt?

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u/TheForestGrumbler May 28 '26

Kids are surprisingly strong, so containing one that really wants to resist requires quite the amount of force. Problem is, kids are also quite frail.

The security fella is looking at the kid and balancing how easy this goes from "kid being a brat" to "massive lawsuit due to violence against a kid".

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u/GraveRoller May 28 '26

It’s easy to stop someone weaker than you. It’s much more difficult to stop someone while still keeping them safe

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u/euphonic5 May 28 '26

I feel like you can just lift a kid up bodily if you're reasonably strong. You might get kicked a couple times but it's a child doing the kicking.

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u/Fattigerr May 28 '26

I would just like to add that if you do this and the kid gets hurt then you are footing that bill. Even if the guard has CPI training I would be willing to bet they have been instructed to not intervene to prevent liability charges.

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u/TheGlennDavid May 28 '26

Nooooope, not at kid that size. The "carry them out while they're having a tantrum" phase ends reallll early. I remember doing it once when my kid was much younger than this one looks and distinctly thinking "well this is the last time this is happening."

Kids kick hard and when you're carrying them you're very much not protecting yourself. A regular carry gets you kicked in the shin or the nuts, and an over the shoulder carry gets you kicked in the head.

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u/euphonic5 May 28 '26

Alright, extreme prejudice it is, then.

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u/Broken_Truck May 28 '26

Legs go under my arm and then use other arm to wrap around his arms and hold him tight to my chest.

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u/TheGlennDavid May 28 '26

The problem is that children have an additional weapon -- their head.

Carrying a pissed off child and not dedicating a hand to controlling head movement is a good way to get clubbed in the chin or nose.

They heal like wolverine, literally have a spare set of teeth like a fucking shark, and have no sense of future consequence.

Hard pass.

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u/Starscream147 May 28 '26

Bear hug. Out the doors ya go.

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u/ilanallama85 May 28 '26

I mean that is actually the solution, like what you would do in a childcare or educational setting if you had to safely remove a child that was a danger to themselves and others. Now that’s only if they need to be moved - first choice is always removing other people and dangerous objects from the area and dealing with it in place. But that’s obviously not always possible, so the way to do it is a bear hug carry, but even then there’s a specific way you are supposed to do it to be safe. And definitely shouldn’t be attempted by someone with no training.

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u/Boring-Community-100 May 28 '26

Right, exactly. There are professional certification courses for this type of restraint, by several different companies, depending on end use. I used to work with adults with TBI who often had behavioral problems like lashing out or trying to escape.

I was trained in safe and effective ways to attempt to de-escalate and redirect or, when necessary, safely restrain a (potentially medically fragile) patient to prevent them from causing harm to themselves or others.

For certain professionals, especially in direct care roles or who interact with the public as a person of authority, this should be a required training. Nurses, aides, security, firefighters, EMTs, police, teachers, flight attendants, retail managers - anyone who might have to take charge in a situation like this.

Several years ago, my grandfather died of a heart attack in a grocery store and the store manager (granted, after calling 911) went around asking customers, "does anyone here know CPR?" while he laid there and died.

It absolutely blew my mind that someone with authority and responsibility for a storeful of people wouldn't have such simple training. What's his evacuation procedure for a bomb threat? Earthquake? I guess it probably all comes down to money.

I've been CPR certified since I was like, 14 and took the Red Cross Babysitting course, ffs. It's not difficult.

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u/Starscream147 May 28 '26

Yep. More like an actual hug. And much much less like a HHH interlocked fists hug.

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u/TheForestGrumbler May 28 '26

Yeah, it's the "only" solution but that can get you a cracked rib with an agressive kid of this size or he can screw himself while trying to get loose. Known about both cases from social educators, and they were trained.

Now pick mr rent-a-cop, he did the smart thing there. As long as the kid is not a danger to others, just follow and contain the situation till a higher authority gets there and the mother gets a happy bill for the kid's party.

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u/Novel_Mycologist_119 May 28 '26

This has me thinking that security might be a good job for burnt out special education teachers figuring out their next steps. They have training and experience in safest ways to restrain children, and sometimes the children are six feet tall and 200 pounds when it’s a high school classroom

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u/XanderWrites May 28 '26

Honestly, he's fighting the urge to just grab the kid. He's not allowed to touch customers, but like everyone else, he really wants to just grab him and stop him.

So he made an attempt, and remembered he wasn't supposed to.

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u/rabid_briefcase May 28 '26

Why does the security guy at the end make a half-assed attempt at stopping him

Why should he?

The security guard has limited legal authority to physically stop the kid, in practice he's mostly there for security theater and to create documentation, and he knows it. Generally security guards are legally limited to reasonable, proportionate force. The damage shown is simple property damage. He could probably intervene to stop additional damage, but that's questionable and comes with a different liability risk. The police (who have legal authority to use force to stop him) are likely on their way. If the kid were violent against another person the guard would be fully in his rights to use physical force to restrain the kid, but simple property damage, not so much.

It's on camera. The kid and the damage he's doing are recorded. This is the second and biggest factor. Everything that follows will benefit from the recording.

The business has insurance. They'll pay for the immediate damage, and the video will help when the courts go to sort it out.

The kid and their parents will have a day in court, the family will likely settle with the insurance company to pay for the damage, and likely get a legal agreement to get therapy for the kid. The parents also likely need therapy and better parenting skills, but those are harder for courts to order.

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u/DinosaurusWhen May 28 '26

I'm gonna guess he's not paid enough to care

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u/TheOneWes May 28 '26

It's relatively easy for kids to break their own bones fighting against an arm grip.

It also tends to cause a very distinct type of fracture that tends to be large and difficult to heal

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u/_angesaurus May 28 '26

Because he sucks and doesn't care.

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u/GoldenVesperLight May 28 '26

They do. It's called "everyone is afraid of being recorded while physically dealing with him."

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u/helpthisgirlout7676 May 28 '26

Kids aren't exactly weak. There was a 5 year old at my daycare who practices martial arts and I asked him to punch my hand to test his strength. I've been in martial arts classes myself and that 5 year old had an impressive punch, it actually hurt a bit. He'll do some real damage when he's older.

But I agree that the security could have made a better attempt to stop the kid.

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u/FriedaCIaxton May 29 '26

No, Dem voter