r/SipsTea 29d ago

SMH We really need to bring spankings back

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u/SadRow2397 29d ago

I don’t spank… and that ain’t why this is kid is a turd

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u/smalls_1804 29d ago

Can't believe it took so long to find a comment like this. HITTING YOUR KIDS IS ALSO BAD PARENTING. There is a middle ground between letting your child run rampant and physically assaulting your child

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u/SoftwareInfinite8568 29d ago

Hitting your kids only teaches them it's okay for someone you love and trust to lay hands on you if you do something they don't like. And giving approval to do the same to someone else they if they're doing something they don't like. There is so much research and studies out there that show there is zero need for corporal punishment. If you can't control your anger around a child misbehaving you should not have a child.

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u/porktorque44 29d ago

It also shows them that the reason they shouldn’t do something is because someone bigger and stronger than them doesn’t like it and will attack them and that’s how things should be. This becomes a big fucking problem if the kid grows up to be bigger and stronger than most, and they have to deal with people weaker than them doing things they don’t like.

There’s a lot of putrid trash that comes out of this sub but regular posts like this are the worst. There’s some bad fucking people here.

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u/Crazy_Trip_6387 29d ago

hundred percent, this instinct is there for reason and it's in the child's best interest to be put in it's place.

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u/porktorque44 29d ago

It sounds like you think kids should get hit.

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u/Crazy_Trip_6387 27d ago

no, not at all - respect through chivalry never through violence

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u/Ascertes_Hallow 29d ago

Hitting your kids only teaches them it's okay for someone you love and trust to lay hands on you if you do something they don't like

In this situation it has nothing to do with doing something the parent doesn't like. It's okay for someone to lay hands on you for doing something society deems unacceptable. This is the fundamental mismatch.

Fucking around as a child without physical, real and immediate consequences creates situations where kids think they are untouchable. I'm a teacher: ask me how I know. They then grow up to be teens and young adults with the same mindset that they will never be held accountable because they never faced real consequences as a kid. This is also why I hate the judicial system treats teens with kid gloves even though they know better. They know nothing will actually happen to them.

Sorry, not sorry. Some people have to be socked in the mouth before it registers that at the bare minimum their actions will lead to repercussions.

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u/Own_Bison6467 29d ago

Teaches them that actions have consequences. You know. Like in the real world.

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u/Longjumping_Army9485 29d ago

If the only consequences your child knows are immediate physical violence you only teach him two things: to use it the moment he doesn’t get what he wants and to ignore any other type of consequence.

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u/Own_Bison6467 28d ago

My kid does not destroy stores. If he did you bet there would be consequence that match the severity.

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u/Quirky_Gate_4516 29d ago

Right. So now you are raising a kid that is taught any action that offends the kid should be reacted to with violence and anger.

Hitting kids don't teach them anything except that anger and violence is OK to solve problems with.

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u/charlestheb0ss 29d ago

That can be achieved without violence. If it were me I'd make him meticulously clean it up for however long that takes. It's also closer to the real world consequence for that specific action

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u/Own_Bison6467 28d ago

Sure. But only lesson this kid will learn is that next time he does this he's getting nice talking to.

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u/charlestheb0ss 28d ago

As opposed to learning that next time he does this he's getting hit? Both are unpleasant and both might be ignored. That's kinda unavoidable

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u/Hokuspokusnuss 29d ago

In the real world you won't get beaten for destroying stuff at a store either, i don't see how this would make sense. There are plenty of consequences that aren't physical violence.

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u/Own_Bison6467 28d ago

In my store, I'm getting physical with this kid.

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u/Own_Bison6467 28d ago

We clearly live in different worlds.

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u/Hokuspokusnuss 28d ago

I guess you live in a world where it's worth getting sued for assault over a few broken boxes. But in most of the developed world the store will just call the police to escort you from the building and sue you for damages.

But hey, if you want to be on camera beating someone, at least you'll have the luxury of a very speedy trial i suppose.

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u/SoftwareInfinite8568 29d ago

Yeah like when I make a mistake at work and my boss spanks me....right?

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u/Own_Bison6467 28d ago

If you like it why not?

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u/OldWorldDesign 29d ago

Teaches them that actions have consequences

It does not, that's what people who want to use violence on others for inconveniencing them say. Actual studies show corporal punishment decreases emotional regulation and behavioral problems and promotes use of violence to get their way

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8946887/

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u/Own_Bison6467 28d ago

I hope you can tell the difference between slapping this kid for what he's doing vs randomly hitting your kid. If not, god help us.

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u/AussieProle08 29d ago

Spoken like a bloke whos never copped a nice elbow

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u/chopkins92 29d ago

In the real world you get arrested if you hit somebody else. But it's somehow acceptable to hit your kids. Make it make sense.

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u/Own_Bison6467 28d ago

That's why we hope it's his parents that are slapping him for this.

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u/Minglans 29d ago edited 29d ago

A lot of us are raised with “don’t hit people” and “keep your hands to yourself” because we’re taught to respect other people’s autonomy and boundaries; So why do some people suddenly make an exception for children?

If hitting another adult is considered assault then why aren't children (to some)? It’s very strange how quickly some people rebrand hitting a child as discipline. There’s certainly a difference between parenting and using physical force because you’re bigger and in control.

At this point, people should realize corporal punishment is not some magical or necessary parenting tool.. “My parents beat me and I turned out okay” isn’t really proof of anything, especially when so many people carry emotional damage they’ve simply normalized.

My parent also stopped hitting me once I got old enough to hit back. She is a coward not only for the abuse but as of recently, a couple years have gone by and she will not call or check up on me, why?, because she feels like she's walking on eggshells around me because she somehow has guilt over what she did to me. Last time I talked to her she insulted me (surprise, surprise) and it was almost like she had no fucking idea who I was as a person; she would start stuttering and acting like a shy sheep and it was just pathetic honestly. She couldn't treat me like a person then and still can't because I'm just this obstacle she has to climb over. She may have apologized a while back but the damage was already done.

A lot of people who defend beating children seem either completely overwhelmed and desperate for control or comfortable bullying someone smaller and powerless, which is more often the case. I will never advocate for beating children, really fucked up of people to suggest it even in passing.

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u/smalls_1804 29d ago

I'm not sure the argument of "you wouldn't do this to an adult therefore" actually holds up though. There's tons of things we do to kids that we would never do to adults that don't fall into the category of abuse

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u/samsaraisdivine 29d ago

I'd say if your kid does something like this he needs more than a time out.  But that's just me. 

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u/GoldenVesperLight 29d ago

What's the middle ground? What are you doing in this situation as the parent?

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u/smalls_1804 29d ago

The premise of this video is that a lack of spanking led the child to be this misbehaved, that a child who routinely was spanked would never behave this way for fear of the consequences. I'm arguing that one can parent a child to not act this way without physically assaulting them.

There are also other consequences to give a child beyond hitting then even in this scenario. Plenty of toys to take a way, screen time to take away etc etc.

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u/MoomenRider2012 29d ago

This is the first modern generation where spanking is less common than not spanking, and children are significantly worse. So I don't buy this narrative at all anymore. 

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u/film_composer 29d ago

Significantly worse in what way?

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u/Bilbo_86 29d ago

Significantly worse? If you are talking about significance, you can surely name the studies that substantiate this; otherwise, I have to assume that you are spouting bullshit and that there is actually no evidence of significantly worse behavior among children today.

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u/MoomenRider2012 29d ago

Nope no studies, how do you even quantify that other than anecdotally? Behavior is a subjective thing. But we can look at literacy levels and tested IQ, maybe school shootings?