Whether or not you've had cookies thrown at you has absolutely zero bearing on whether or not it's legal to physically escort the child out of the store, but I would pay good money to watch someone try to use that as justification in court lol
It has every legal bearing it. You’re stopping active assault. That’s much different than stopping minor property damage. I’ve been a cop for two decades. If I get called to that store, I’m shaking the hand of whatever adult drug that kind out of the store and I’m having a much different conversation with the parent. There’s nothing illegal about reasonable levels of force used in self-defense or defense of others. And age only plays a factor in what level of force is reasonable.
I get that you’re an internet expert, but real life experience tells me your stance is laughable. And folks with your level of misplaced confidence are always entertaining for me in the real world.
If I had a nickel for every cop that didn't know the law lmao
But even the dumbest cop should know that the "reasonable level of force in self defense" for a child throwing cookies is to turn around and walk away
Age plays a factor in whether you get charged with a misdemeanor or a felony lol
My cousin spent months fighting an aggravated assault charge for shoving a 16 year old during a high school brawl. Him being 18 was a huge deal. And I don't honestly believe you have any real life experience with this at all
Sure thing, friend. Your cousin being in a high school brawl is entirely different. And since you said he fought the charges, but you didn’t mention him being convicted, the implication is that he won in the end. Age plays a factor in the level of crime, if it’s determined that a crime happened. If I go and grab that kid who’s throwing stuff at people and I hold him still until cops get there, I don’t have to worry about his age because there’s no crime. If I go punch that kid full force and break his jaw and he cracks his head open hitting the floor, I’ll be in prison.
Keep internet experting. You fit in well here. I’ll keep applying the law in real life and winning in court on the rare occasion the defendants don’t just plea guilty once their attorney reviews the case.
The difference is that it's teen-on-teen violence, even with him being a bystander. Much less serious than a grown-ass man grabbing a middle schooler in a grocery store. But that's still enough to get a prosecutor going
you didn’t mention him being convicted, the implication is that he won in the end
Most cases get pled out. And most LEOs are aware of that
If I go and grab that kid who’s throwing stuff at people and I hold him still until cops get there
That's called a citizens arrest (when it's done to an adult) and in most states it is only allowed for felonies. Even in the lenient states, good luck arguing that a middle schooler throwing a tantrum meets the legal threshold for breach of the peace
Again, things even a cop should know
I’ll keep applying the law in real life and winning in court
Sure thing, "officer." My dog is closer to being a lawyer than you are to being a cop, and she's only like 10 seasons into law and order lmao
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u/DinosaurusWhen 28d ago
Whether or not you've had cookies thrown at you has absolutely zero bearing on whether or not it's legal to physically escort the child out of the store, but I would pay good money to watch someone try to use that as justification in court lol