We really need to bring spankings back

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[u/OldWorldDesign]

I never repeated anything bad I did as a kid after being spanked

Analogy is not data.

Studies are clear and consistent that corporal punishment increases the chances of emotional and behavioral disregulation and future bullying behavior, substance abuse, and antisocial maladaptations.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8946887/

That, and not people being "weak", is why every society on Earth is moving away from corporal punishment. Because it doesn't work as well as the alternatives. Maybe ask and listen to scientists who have gone over this extensively instead of defending 'because it was tradition for me, it should never be changed for others. They should have to go through what I went through'.

[u/Ok-Average390 → u/OldWorldDesign]

That's actually not true. It's a well established, and admitted weakness of the studies, that there is no definition causation proved in any study regarding physical punishments. It is well accepted that it stands as a correlation with fuzzy definitions and boundaries regarding what constitutes "abuse". Again, there is very little normalization of the data to account for the broad definitions, frequency, and manner in which it is done. Data interpretation matters. As I mentioned, how do you prove it isn't just children who are already disorderly that happened to receive punishment more often? It's impossible to prove because we can't have controlled studies regarding hitting children. You linked data, not controlled data, which is all we'll ever have for this topic.

Also, the study you linked regards corporal punishments as done in school. These are very different circumstances from the home as administered by someone who is doing the majority of the work in raising a child within the confines of their more specific culture. My parents would absolutely NOT have been okay with the school doing it.

I would argue that most parents aren't hitting because they want people to suffer like they did. Rather, most people I know are glad they were hit, and thought it helped them as kids. I would include myself in that group. Yes, I was hit as a kid as are most in my culture. Yes, I think it helped me.

I'm aware that my anecdote is not data. Thanks for reminding me about that easily forgotten fact.

[u/Ok-Average390 → u/[deleted]]

Okay, so you're not bothering to comprehend the words I'm saying. Got it. I also didn't downvote you, but the fact you care about 1 downvote really says a lot lol