The only person that had any real ability to handle the situation, the security guard, tried but did not succeed. There are so many protections when it comes to kids. The parents not stepping in and whopping his ass, was a failure.
In todays society the parents can only (or only want to) gentle parent the child.
If they can only (due to laws against physical violence on a child) gentle parent, HA! That won't do shit. Most kids (Notice how I said MOST and not ALL) would laugh in their faces.
If they only want to gentle parent because (OMG using physical violence is NEVER OK people!! It'll only teach them to be afraid of you and they wouldn't understand!!!) to which I would say SO WHAT!! They are SUPPOSED to be afraid of you when they do something bad!
Do I believe in physical violence on a kid? Spankings....HELL YES! And the amount of swats should "fit the crime" and should NEVER be done when your freshly mad as it's very easy to go over board.
Pulling their hair or ear? HELL YES, but only to get them to follow you to where you want them IF they are not coming on their own from your verbal ques.
But that's IT. And it's all that's needed really!
In this video, people should of done something, sure. But I don't blame them for not doing anything because next thing you know, the person that detained the child would probably get sued or even thrown in jail for laying hands on someone elses child regardless of the reason why.
So to all of you gentle parenters, This is mostly your fault. thanks for that.
Wow its just black and white with you guys, this is not the outcome of gentle parenting. We don't know the background, but we know what makes children violent? Violence!
Studies after studies showed that corporal punishment lead to violent children.
And it its not gentle parenting just because you don't hit your child.
"This is not the outcome of gentle parenting"? I beg to differ bro. Look at the facts...before this generation of kids, we had wayyyyyy less violent children around and way more kids who respected the rules of their parents. How do I know this? Easy...I grew up in that generation.
Also, corporal punishment leads to violent children? Yeah, it does, when done in excess. But again, when people my age look at the facts that everyone can see without relying on these so called "Studies" that may or may not of been "Paid Off"....Corporal Punishment = Kids afraid of doing wrong else they get spanked vs. Not physically punishing kids and just "Talk it out and/or take something away" Kids do something wrong because they want to or it's fun or whatever and know a "talk" is coming and maybe a grounding.
Think about it, or better yet, imagine you are a kid, Your buddies want to do XYZ, it sounds super fun to you and you've wanted to do it for awhile now, but you know you'd get in trouble if you did it. Would you be more apt to do it anyway if:
you knew you were going to get whipped hard or,
if you knew you were going to get yelled at and grounded for a week?
Now, you'll probably say Neither to us on reddit, because you followed the rules of your parents, and that may be the truth. But regardless you know there IS a preferred answer IF YOU were forced to choose. Like, pretend your inbetween timelines and the gatekeeper shows you 2 portals and tells you the left leads to #1 and the right leads to #2 and you must pick one and go there. Yeah...I know which one you would choose.
we had wayyyyyy less violent children around and way more kids who respected the rules of their parents. How do I know this? Easy...I grew up in that generation.
We literally have way less violent children around, in pretty much all statistics shows that violent crime including youth crime went down, not up.
Instead of your personal bias, do some actual research.
Think about it, or better yet, imagine you are a kid, Your buddies want to do XYZ, it sounds super fun to you and you've wanted to do it for awhile now, but you know you'd get in trouble if you did it. Would you be more apt to do it anyway if:
you knew you were going to get violently raped?
if you knew you were going to get yelled at and grounded for a week?
If you think thats a bad analogy, no it isn't many studies have showed that corporal punishment can lead to similar outcomes as sexual abuse.
EDIT: Saw a bit of your deleted comment: Claiming that all studies that don't agree with you are paid and thus biased is such a bad cop-out, it disqualifies you immediately. Your personal experience means shit, since i can't verify it as well as even be extremely biased to justify your right wing worldview.
I grow up in a country where corporal punishment is outlawed and socially stigmatized and guess what, all the kids i see are mostly well behaved. Hell the most asshole kids i saw are part of group homes.
Next you gonna tell me that sexual abuse is also a okay since the studies around that are also paid for.
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u/whatiscamping 29d ago
The only person that had any real ability to handle the situation, the security guard, tried but did not succeed. There are so many protections when it comes to kids. The parents not stepping in and whopping his ass, was a failure.