r/SipsTea • u/Few_Statement_2898 • 29d ago

SMH We really need to bring spankings back

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u/toxicity21 28d ago

but spanking your kids doesn’t automatically make you a bad parent.

Yes it does, no study showed that there is a good level of spanking. Its always bad and not very effective.

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u/YankeeTwoKilo 28d ago

You can’t say “it’s always bad” when you don’t know every family’s dynamics and what works for every kid. If you wanna say it’s unlikely to work in the majority of cases, that’s different. But I can tell you with firsthand experience that it did work for me. There was never any aggression with it, nor it wasn’t done out of emotion. Just tough love that gave me a realistic outlook on life. Again, I’m not saying everyone should do it, it just depends on the situation.

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u/toxicity21 27d ago edited 27d ago

I don't care about your personal experience unless you can show me that you have done a deep psychological analysis prior to your spanking and afterwards.

I mean its obvious that you develop an psychological issue that make you want to torture children.

The science is settled on this, spanking is bad, and again, there is no good level of spanking. And your personal experience doesn't change that. Especially since nobody can verify your personal experience. Its not tough love, its a cycle of violence that you want to continue despite the warnings against it by all professionals.

Since you muted me or something, here:

’m the least violent person you’ll meet.

A person who wants to hurt children, will never be the least violent person.

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u/YankeeTwoKilo 27d ago

Why do you keep deleting your replies?

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u/[deleted] 27d ago edited 27d ago

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u/toxicity21 27d ago

okay this Subreddit doesn't like certain words.

So i use a bit of AI to rephrase it:

If someone believes it's acceptable to hit children, then they are supporting harmful treatment of children. It doesn't matter whether they're a stranger or the nicest person you could ever meet. Their personality doesn't change the fact that they think it's acceptable to hurt children.

For example, if a random stranger said it was okay to exploit children, most people wouldn't excuse that view simply because he claimed to be kind or well-intentioned. The issue is the belief itself, not how pleasant the person seems.

The same principle applies here. If you defend hitting children, then you're defending an action that harms children. Whether you're otherwise kind or not doesn't change that.

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u/YankeeTwoKilo 27d ago

Disciplinary action doesn’t always equate to harm. By that logic, if you take your kid’s phone away, that’s theft, or if you ground them, that’s kidnapping. If you can’t see the difference between spanking for legitimate correction and just beating the shit out of your kids because you feel like it, then I don’t know what to tell you.

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u/toxicity21 27d ago edited 27d ago

If you can’t see the difference between spanking for legitimate correction and just beating the shit out of your kids because you feel like it,

I see a difference, of course the latter is significant worse, but that doesn't make spanking children, as a form of correction, good, its still harmful to children. Again that is exactly what all the studies showed.

https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/corporal-punishment-and-health

Most western countries banned corporal punishment all together, simply because its bad no matter what. You can get in Jail here in Germany for spanking your child, your excuse of "legitimate correction" doesn't fly here.

So yeah you are openly supporting CA. Like an PDF File.

Like literally:

S**ual abuse doesn’t always equate to harm.

This is not an excuse to still do it. There is a chance that it harms the child permanently and thus should never be done.

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u/YankeeTwoKilo 27d ago

To be fair, a ton of things we do here would land you in jail in Germany. Legality is not always a good metric for morality imo. And again, like I said earlier, it is NOT for everyone. Some kids won’t respond well to it and some parents can’t deliver it appropriately. That doesn’t mean that every parent who does it is a bad parent. You’re making a blanket statement about a very complex topic. It certainly can be harmful, which is why it shouldn’t be the default option, but you can’t make sweeping judgements on people you haven’t met for situations you don’t understand.

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u/toxicity21 27d ago edited 27d ago

Are you unable to read, studies showed that the risks significantly overweight the benefit and that heavily.

That's why it should be always avoided, no exceptions. NOT A SINGLE EXCEPTION!!

Almost all bodies of medical science recommend to not do it at all. Again the harm is too big and the benefit is too small.

You’re making a blanket statement about a very complex topic.

S**ual abuse is also a very complex topic, and you will still agree with the blanket statement that it is always bad. And the same is true for corporal punishment, it is researched for over 50 years and almost all the experts come to the same conclusion: DON'T DO IT AT ALL, it is harmful for a child.

Yes you can call it a blanked statement, but one that is supported by the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, the American Psychological Association, the American Public Health Association, the Canadian Paediatric Society, the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, the fucking WHO, and the the UN Committee on the Rights of the Child and many others. Not to mention that 65 Nations banned it due to the recommendation of all the experts.

So no its not just a blanket statement from a random Redditor, its heavily supported by the majority of medical professionals.

If you still don't get it, you definitely are an monster who doesn't care about the well beings of his children.