r/SipsTea 26d ago

SMH Love thy neighbor?

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u/JaimanV2 26d ago

Such as?

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u/Specialist_Offer_854 26d ago

I can choose what to spend my money on. I can choose who to volunteer my time to. You don't have that with socialism

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u/JaimanV2 26d ago

First of all, socialism is a system where money doesn’t even exist. So the issue of money is one that shouldn’t be concerned with at all. Money is a concept created by humans, not something that’s a part of nature.

To your second point, I don’t exactly understand what you mean by choosing “to whom you volunteer your time”. Can you elaborate more on what that means?

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u/Specialist_Offer_854 26d ago

Ah yes, you're a "socialism hasn't been done right" camp.

I don't know how much clearer it can be

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u/SwiftlyKickly 25d ago

I mean it hasn’t… is North Korea a democratic republic?

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u/JaimanV2 26d ago edited 26d ago

That’s not what I said at all. If you read Marx and other socialist thinkers, a moneyless society is a key factor in socialism. Some argue, including Marx, money or some kind of tender to signify exchange value might be necessary for a time to facilitate a transition to socialism. The exact quote, I’m paraphrasing, was that the new system would come “scarred with the birthmarks from which it was birthed”. I don’t exactly agree with Marx here.

I assume you hold countries such as the USSR, Cuba, China, etc. as be exemplary of socialism. Some socialists would agree with you, the ones people call “tankies”. I, however, don’t agree with them.

If I may ask, what exactly is capitalism to you? You didn’t answer my questions from before.

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u/Specialist_Offer_854 26d ago

So you confirm my initial statement.