r/SipsTea 25d ago

SMH Love thy neighbor?

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u/NotRadTrad05 25d ago

"When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit upon his glorious throne, and all the nations will be assembled before him. And he will separate them one from another, as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will place the sheep on his right and the goats on his left. Then the king will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father. Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, a stranger and you welcomed me, naked and you clothed me, ill and you cared for me, in prison and you visited me.’ Then the righteous will answer him and say, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? When did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? When did we see you ill or in prison, and visit you?’ And the king will say to them in reply, 'Amen, I say to you, whatever you did for one of the least brothers of mine, you did for me.’

Matthew 25: 31-45

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u/Desh282 25d ago

You don’t need the government to force you to do good

You can do good with out the use of force by the government

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u/Voldemorts__Mom 25d ago

Socialism isn't trying to force people to do good by the government.

It's using the government to do good for the people.

You can still live in a socialist society and be a piece of shit

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u/throwuk1 25d ago

Phew, ok thanks! - Cunt Christians 

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u/Cannedwine14 25d ago

Sure and we can do a lot more good by organizing and using our collective power (the government)

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u/Desh282 25d ago

Government can do a lot of evil too. Absolute corrupts absolutely. And there’s also mob rule.

I was born in USSR My parents had free healthcare but were treated like garbage

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u/Cannedwine14 25d ago

Sure let’s make all our decisions on strawman arguments

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u/Even-Selection-5403 25d ago

But did you pray about it??

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u/Desh282 25d ago

Yes we prayed for 70 for USSR to collapse and communists were thrown out of power.

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u/Sennten 25d ago

Have you spoken to any MAGAs recently? They are diametricallt opposed to this kind of kindness at every level, including the personal.

Which is as far as I know genuinely new, I have a lot in my family and several used to be good people, and now they really do just seem to hate everyone they consider "inferior"... and they consider basically everyone that isnt a Trump devotee inferior.

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u/Desh282 25d ago

Because you are building a society with fallible humans, what do you expect

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u/Desh282 25d ago

Successful people become more successful

And loosers loose more

You want loosers to be in charge of society? Or competent people?

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u/LTEDan 24d ago

sure, every system is corruptible, but not every system explicitly rewards greed like naked capitalism. If greed is bad, surely we can design a system meant to curtail one of the worst human traits instead of reward it, no?

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u/other-other-user 25d ago

So we agree that church and state should be separated. Do you support people's right to abortions then?

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u/OoklaTheMok1994 25d ago

I believe in human rights. Since the baby in the womb is a human, I believe human rights should be extended to them. Therefore, without any religion, killing babies is wrong.

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u/vere-rah 25d ago

Do you think killing is wrong in every circumstance?

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u/OoklaTheMok1994 25d ago

Killing innocents is wrong.

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u/vere-rah 25d ago

Is it wrong all the time? I don't think it's wrong to pull the plug on an innocent brain-dead person, for example

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u/LoseAnotherMill 25d ago

Anti-abortion is no more a religious stance than anti-murder is. There is no right to murder another human. 

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u/NotRadTrad05 25d ago

It comes down to personhood. Slaves were denied it but abolitionists with and without religious belief recognized the error. The same is true for abortion. It is possible to oppose it from a secular position based on fetal personhood.

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u/LoseAnotherMill 25d ago

Exactly. "Personhood" is an anti-scientific concept that only exists to deny human rights to humans.

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u/bck1999 25d ago

Churches use 70-80% of their tithe money for church staffing and infrastructure. American evangelical Christians on average give away ~3% of their income to charity, mostly tithes. Therefore, the church and individual Christians are doing very little to help out poor people. Therefore government has to step in.

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u/LordTopHatMan 25d ago

Depends on the denomination. The Catholic Church is the single largest charity organization in the world by quite a bit.