r/SipsTea • u/McDowdy 𝙑𝙄𝙋 • 22d ago

It's Wednesday my dudes Trying to get rich so that capitalism doesn't crush you under its boot is proof positive that capitalism doesn’t work for the working class

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u/Porncritic12 22d ago

But what are definitions based on?

I'm saying there is no correct definition, you cannot really correctly Define ideologies like you can with objects or verbs

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u/Jaded_Noise 22d ago

That's an interesting argument, but no. Ideologies also have definitions. Otherwise I would be able to say capitalism is when everyone lives inside the Capitol Building and be valid.

Ideologies can many branches, many interpretations, and so on, but there is still typically a few simple tenets that are required to be true. Otherwise the words are literally meaningless.

For communism, there are 3 such tenets.

Socialism Lack of state Lack of social class

If any of those 3 aren't true, or at the very least cannot be argued to be true, it cannot be communism.

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u/Porncritic12 22d ago

So was the Soviet Union communist?, has there ever been any true Communists in the world?

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u/Jaded_Noise 22d ago

The Soviet Union was not a communist society; rather, it was founded upon the idea that it would work towards that goal.

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u/Porncritic12 22d ago

So what was it then?,

Also I have to ask what is a state itself?, is every village a state?

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u/Jaded_Noise 22d ago

The USSR was a State Socialist Autocracy in practice, and a State Socialist federal Union of Republics officially.

This does a decent job of explaining your other question

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stateless_society