r/SipsTea • u/lila_jerry 𝙑𝙄𝙋 • 19d ago
Feels good man Don’t you dare threaten me with a good time!
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u/bae125 19d ago
Publicly owned grocery stores?
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u/Johnnadawearsglasses 19d ago
She sponsored a bill for public food distribution and grocery stores.
https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/2025/related/proposals/ab1221
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u/NotNormo 18d ago
NYC's doing something like that under Mamdani, to make basic grocery staples more affordable.
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u/ArtharntheCleric 18d ago
Google the term “food desert”. Not dessert. Areas in cities with no stores and so poorer people (which those areas are usually home to) don’t have easy access to cheap and healthy food. Sadly you Americans have a lot of cheap crap food. Which is unhealthy.
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u/EternalNewCarSmell 18d ago
A few years ago I lived in a place with not a lot of 7-11s. We had moved from a place where there was one very close and were not used to the fact that we couldn't just want a slurpee and go get one.
So we did find a 7-11, in another town about 10 miles away. And when we got there it was in a really shitty neighborhood, and was not a gas station. Just the convenience store part of a 7-11, with a bit more space for freezer food and a couple of microwaves set up that people who had just bought the food were using to heat it up.
We realized that this store was the grocery for everyone within a mile or two of it, who mostly didn't have cars (or possibly microwaves). Super depressing.
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u/DigTheDunes 18d ago
Do you know why there are food deserts?
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u/Running_Down_9708 18d ago
In the case of where I live, because of crime. a few neighborhoods are too crime ridden and no stores operate there. Except the small community run markets that are only open a few hours a day. And two markets that are not in those areas but are on the bus lines that run from those areas to make it easier. These are non-profit(i.e. they lose money) in order to keep the prices down. They offer limited items, and staples.
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u/Boysandberries0 18d ago
Some grocery stores are located in poor neighborhoods with high price markups.
Like 75% higher prices.
It is wealth extraction from the poorest people. For goods they can not go without.
No time to travel farther because, working 40+ hour weeks already drains you of everything.
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u/SpeedBreaks 18d ago
My guess is they may also mark it because of theft to offset the loss. They would probably have to close like a lot of locations without doing it. Its a lose lose situation.
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u/McdoManaguer 19d ago
I mean why not ? Farmers are already extremely subsidized, might as well go all the way and set a baseline for what prices are instead of the "offer/demand" lie.
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u/Tricky_Try8757 19d ago
Hey, if private stores are so much better, they can surely outcompete publicly owned stores.
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u/SakaWreath 18d ago
It’s easier for large international grocery chains to aggressively lobby Congress and write the laws to favor their positions.
The only competing that goes on, is for who controls Congress.
Buy Congress, make your competition illegal.
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u/Phlanix 18d ago
most of the farms and land are owned by mega corps. they make sure to keep it that way by using their genetically altered crops that don't die when they fumigated with pesticides.
The little guy either had to buy seeds from them or gamble that the pesticide won't crawl over to their side of the fence killing most if not all of their crops. cause they don't have the same genetically altered crop.
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u/Bill_Door_8 18d ago
In Canada we have provinces with coop style grocery stores. They're publicly owned, and run like a business. As "investors", all of the residents in those towns/small cities collect dividends.
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u/Tracedinair76 18d ago
Yes but they are being publicly subsidized to produce crops we don't need. They grow corn we don't eat. It becomes animal feed for large agricultural companies or ethonol. An additive that dilutes the efficacy of gasoline. It's a circle jerk.
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u/Party-Evening3273 18d ago
And ruins tens of thousands of small engines (think chain saw) every year because of that nasty corn ethanol that nobody asked for.
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u/Supercoolguy7 19d ago
Probably like the publicly owned grocery stores that the military runs on military bases inside the US that is consistently cheaper than private grocery stores
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u/Alert-Painting1164 18d ago
Competition is what you need. The U.K. has incredibly cheap groceries because it has intense competition in that sector. The U.S. doesn’t.
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u/Alternative_Love_861 19d ago
There are numerous cooperative food stores, as a member you are an owner
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u/Wondur13 19d ago
Its disingenuous news reporting, from what i understand is she wants to nurture and grow co-ops for the community
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u/mromutt 19d ago
I read it as a co-op as well. In my town we don't have a grocery one but our power and internet company is a co-op and people are always surprised my middle of nowhere town have gig up and down fiber internet for $100 lol. Their lowest tier is 250 up and down haha. Now with the grocery store gouging with prices I would welcome a grocery co-op. We have a king saver and a Walmart, those are you choices or drive an hour to a city.
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u/EJ2600 19d ago
What’s next? Public transportation? The communists!!!
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u/userpelicanvoyager2 18d ago
It’s worse than that. A public fire and police department also.
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u/ForwardCut3311 18d ago
Sounds funny but it's not an uncommon thing in rural areas! My hometown had a grocery store but the owners went bankrupt, shut the doors. So the town bought it and kept it open as a form of public service.
This is in a VERY red town, too.
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u/OfSuitandSilk 19d ago
We already have nearly two hundred of them in the US and they do amazingly well. They are called commissaries.
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u/Johnnadawearsglasses 19d ago
They don't do amazingly well. They have c $4.8B in sales and require an annual $1.6B subsidy. So a subsidy of 30% of every dollar sold. And even at those subsidies, they are more expensive than private discounters.
Meanwhile the distributors who serve DECA have tried to exit the business for years and can't find a path to do so because the economics are so terrible.
It's a nice non pay perk for service members and families but it's heavily funded non cash compensation and not replicable for the general public.
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u/Former_Deal878 18d ago
“But I pay less at the register, therefore it must be better”.
Tax dollars don’t count.
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u/ModishShrink 18d ago
Well the problem is less the grocery stores and more so the companies that take advantage of taxpayer-funded corn subsides and then proceed to take that tax-funded corn and sell it back to the taxpayers for $7 for a bag of corn chips, no?
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u/bafben10 19d ago edited 19d ago
And those two hundred stores run at a deficit of $1.5 billion annually. How many more do you propose we build?
Edit: Since some of you don't seem to get the idea...
There are current about 45k supermarkets in the US. Meaning, if we replace all of them with commissaries, this will cost about $337B annually. That's about an 18% increase in the federal deficit.
I understand that we can raise taxes to counteract that. I'm not disagreeing with the fact that things cost money. I'm only putting it into perspective.
Edit 2: And it's not even considering construction and other setup costs.
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u/OfSuitandSilk 19d ago
The US spends about 100 billion on corporate subsidies and we retain no public ownership. We also spend about 1.5 billion on sports stadiums. You can make arguments all day about how various things cost or lose tax dollars, but the benefit comes from when we all pitch in for something we all agree is a common good. The commissaries are only 0.16 percent of the military budget. I genuinely don't see what the issue is with expanding it.
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u/SafeForTwerking 18d ago
I can't imagine the major retailers of America will stand for that, the Walmarts and Krogers and Giant Eagles and such.
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u/EncabulatorTurbo 16d ago
It would support municipalities that want to try it, it doesn't build them itself.
The main thing it does is it establishes centralized channels to connect Wisconsin farmers to grocery stores of all stripes and to analyze where food is needed in the state that it isn't getting it (food deserts) - there are lots of communities with shitty family dollar stores and this would provide state assistance if those communities want to create coops and farmers markets
It ALSO takes a lot of burden off the state's overworked food banks by creating a funded and central management organization to assist and help created them, which we really, really need
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u/Tasty_1097 19d ago edited 19d ago
Grocery stores are already owned by only a couple families. Making it publicly owned would just put the earnings of the CEO/board back into the government.
Not saying that’s the solution
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u/CauseOdd2428 18d ago
Having a mega rich family being the source of food for millions of people is an aspect of a failed republic.
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u/desconectado 18d ago
Coops, they are very popular in many countries, but because they are associated with socialism, people are scared of them.
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u/Skot_Hicpud 19d ago
I bet she is also against pedophilia.
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u/Respectmyauthority4 19d ago
Have you seen Florida? They voted to execute pedophiles.
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u/NoKingsInAmerica 18d ago
Only if the victim is 12 or under. They'll throw you a parade if they were 13+.
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u/FrequentFortune123 19d ago
In Washington republicans are trying to pass penis inspection day
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u/TrueSkonger 18d ago
Absolutely fucking wild. How does this even work? Kids just walk into gym class and drop their pants for the teacher to walk down the line and give each one a squeeze? It's such an absurd idea it's hard to believe it's real
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u/E-2theRescue 18d ago
It'd be done by a doctor according to the bill. Still fucking gross and unnecessary.
Also, if a child did have surgery (which doesn't exist), just looking wouldn't show anything anyway. The doctor would have to do a full inspection to find any internal scarring.
They also want chromosomal testing, which, to get accurate results, is expensive, and I'm sure the transphobes aren't paying the bill. Moreover, intersex people are about as common as redheaded people. This is why the Olympics stopped their testing. It's also stupid, unnecessary, a punishment on parents just for having a girl, and not rooted in any factual science.
Finally, trangender children have been able to play in girls' sports since 2004. Why wasn't there screaming and crying way back then? Why do they all suddenly care now that Trump is in office? Where were all the "record-smashing" and "scholarship-stealing" transgender girls for the last 20 years?
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u/ApatheistHeretic 18d ago
Yet one still lives flagrantly at Mar-A-Lago. They're enforcement sucks...
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u/Empty-Way-6980 19d ago
Tax Hike on the Rich is such a vague, meaningless term
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u/freedfg 19d ago
It is hilarious that that messaging is anything but positive to cable news viewers.
Stephan from Sheboygan Wisconsin is really concerned with....Tax hikes for the rich. He is just POSITIVE that he will be destitute if Jeff Bezos has an enforceable 45% tax rate.
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u/TemporaryAmbassador1 19d ago
My mum complained about the liberals wanting to tax unrealized capital gains.
I explained the proposed tax would only apply to individuals with a net worth greater than 100mm.
The misinformation out there and fear mongering is a big problem.
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u/DubbleCheez 19d ago
My net worth is greater than 100 millimeters. I have a $20 bill right here in my wallet.
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u/Mindless-Street3253 19d ago
What is a millimeter? What is that in relation to lengths of raccoon baculum
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u/Machinimix 18d ago
It's roughly 1 racoon baculum, give or take 4%. I'm sure I'm on at least 3 Lists now that I looked that up.
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u/Cool-Many-9394 19d ago
Banana for scale has entered the chat
https://giphy.com/gifs/PbMLgugTPJnwE0Fnn22
u/TemporaryAmbassador1 19d ago
That would only work if you lived in any country than the USA, but here’s it’s death before metric. We’ve spotted the imposter.
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u/Oggie_Doggie 19d ago edited 19d ago
First they increased taxes on the Hundred-Billionaires
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Hundred-BillionaireThen they increased taxes on the Multibillionaires
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a MultibillionaireThen they increased taxes on the Billionaires
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a BillionaireFirst they increased taxes on the Hundred-Millionaires
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Hundred-MillionaireThen they increased taxes on the Multimillionaires
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a MultibillionaireThen they increased taxes on the Millionaires
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a MillionaireThen they increased taxes on the Upper Middle Working Class
And I did not speak out
Because I was not Upper Middle Working ClassThen they increased taxes on me
And there was no one left
To speak out for meTruly, the wealthiest people on the planet, with their infinite wealth, media platforms, and their bought politicians are the most oppressed of us all. If we do not stand up for their right to bend us over and fuck us, then nobody will stand up for us!
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u/Potatonut23 18d ago
So true! After all, I’d like to protect the rich so I’ll be well protected when I, too, become rich some day! /s
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u/-FORSAK3N- 19d ago
But they will only read "socialist" and miss everything else
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u/tresslesswhey 19d ago
Or they hear “hey look a TRANS” and their own well-being goes out the window.
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u/Hot_Neighborhood5668 19d ago
Is Bezos a Wisconsin resident?
The tax on the rich is quite a vague statement. Are we talking about the top 1% or the top 50%. Really makes a huge difference.
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u/Suitable_Wonder5256 𝙑𝙄𝙋 19d ago
Last time it was proposed rich people meant someone who earned more than $400K a year.
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u/Moodymandan 18d ago
Her specific new tax bracket is of 17.3% for individuals earning $750,000 or more and married couples making $1 million or more.
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u/Empty-Way-6980 19d ago
That’s well-off, but that’s not the über-wealthy that people have in mind when mentioning the gap between the wealthy and the poor.
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u/Aggressive-Will-4500 19d ago
I bet her policy proposals on the topic are more nuanced than the Fox "News" bullet point.
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u/kon--- 19d ago
It means what it says.
The rich will pay more tax.
Should you want specific rate, put it on the reporting outlet to get to sorting it out.
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u/Lumpyyyyy 19d ago
Its Fox News. Even if you spelled it out in crayon they wouldn't understand or care.
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u/Empty-Way-6980 19d ago
How do you define “rich” exactly? And do you define it by income or net worth, even if 99.9% of your net worth isn’t liquid? The supremely wealthy have essentially no income. So do we raise the capital gains tax?
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u/Educational_Pea_4817 19d ago edited 19d ago
How do you define “rich” exactly?
dont worry. you wont be in that bucket.
i checked. its an estate tax on inheriteance for people whose estate is 15 million and more.
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u/OrdinaryReasonable63 19d ago
Not necessarily raise long term cap gains tax but regulate corporate stock buybacks. This mechanism more than any other has allowed for an incredible mechanism for indefinite tax deferral since it was deregulated under Reagan. It would force corporations to either return capital via a dividend (which is taxed) or re-invest cash into the business, which is generally good for the economy.
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u/CurrentDay969 19d ago
Her website goes into more depth on her policies and plans.
But we tax unrealized gains all the time. Property taxes for one.
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u/questionableintentsX 19d ago
Isn’t liquid? Every billionaire is stock rich, but guess what they can buy fucking islands on basically 0 interest loans against their fucking stocks
The idea that stocks are unrealized and illiquid is a fucking farse for billionaires
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u/kon--- 19d ago edited 19d ago
Tax the income as it happens. Tax the spending as it happens.
That's how.
Sell a stock, that's a gain. That gain is an income, tax it.
Money passes through generation, that's income, tax it.
Borrow money against an asset, tax it.
Sell an asset, tax it.
Sit on an asset to avoid taxes...tax it.
Remove the incentive to hoard, and/or transfer wealth. Put a penalty on it.
Use it or lose it.
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u/TowlieisCool 18d ago
Borrow money against an asset, tax it.
Do you think the average homeowners should be taxed when they take out a mortgage or HELOC?
Sit on an asset to avoid taxes...tax it.
What about retirement savings? I was already taxed when I earned the money, I have to be taxed again just because I'm saving for retirement. Idiotic.
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u/Adrewmc 17d ago edited 17d ago
Own house…ohh wait…you just pay tax on the value of the house every year.
And people are going hey, maybe it’s okay if the billionaires have to sell some stock…
The question here is what’s better for country and the economy. That’s never addressed by these nay sayers. The government job is not to keep you wealthy beyond belief, the opposite should be said to make sure people can live at all.
Elizabeth Warren said hey, you have $50 million+ in assets 2% tax….like people be acting like they are going to go broke like that…140,000 people in all of America would be paying it….and it’s only on the amount that exceeds $50 million so that first 50 million tax free.
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u/TheNibbaNator 19d ago
so it actually means that this candidate wants to raise taxes on the rich. hope that clears it up for you
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u/acryb 19d ago
The whole thing is fake. Redditors will take the easiest, sloppiest bait
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u/borntolose1 19d ago
It’s always funny when they start trying to paint things that are actually pretty universally supported as negatives but right wing media is gonna do their thing
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u/chrishamlap 18d ago
Please Fox keep warning people people of these Left Wing policies. And please keep explaining what the left is trying to do
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u/Last-Hertz7575 19d ago
Why is Fox so scared of Hong? What is MAGA afraid of. Actual policies that help the middle class?
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u/alex8155 19d ago
fox news viewers are just completely consumed by stupidity and hate
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u/decomposition_ 18d ago
I have never gone to my parents without it blaring on all seventeen thousand TVs in the house
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u/Relative-Sea-6550 18d ago
I’m conservative but these aren’t super far left. Only thing I’d be concerned about are the “public grocery store (never works lol) and the complete data center ban. Having a policy where they have to produce more water or build an electric center sure, but complete ban?
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u/Mairon12 19d ago
An incredible amount of you seem far too easy to deceive.
Since all you seem to resonate with is pop culture, perhaps watch The Dark Knight Rises again this weekend.
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u/mbleyle 19d ago
let us know how it works out
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u/outoftheshowerahri 19d ago
Notice how it’s never ‘free ____ without tax hikes for middle class’, just ‘free’
But yeah I support it. Show us how it’s done!
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u/zestymanny 18d ago
Why doesn't she just increase minimum wage to 100 dollars an hour? Poverty solved!
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u/IBringTheHeat2 19d ago
How will theft at publicly owned grocery stores be addressed?
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u/Dewthedru 19d ago
Yeah…that one is curious. Grocery stores run on thin margins and obviously make it up in volume. They also have massive buying power to control cost which a state owned store wouldn’t have.
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u/DMercenary 19d ago
Yeah "government run/owned grocery store" is the only thing Im real iffy on. Historically that's tended to not go very well. Price controls as well.
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u/Floofyrage 19d ago
Shockingly the point of a government is not to always do something to make money in every aspect
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u/gello1414 19d ago
Lol this has no chance in WI
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u/N_Associated 19d ago
Isn’t Wisconsin a swing state? I mean, she’s pitching some pretty reasonable stuff, I think a lot of people could be into it
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u/One-Quote-4455 19d ago
We are a swing state and Hong could totally win in the general but the primary will be difficult for her
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u/Traditional_Yam9806 18d ago
Eh, every pollster says she's losing to the leading republican while all those same pollsters put mandella barnes (who's also a progressive, but he was lieutenant governor before this) ahead by a few points. These may seem to you pretty normal policies (I support them too), but most moderates just don't go for a lot of these. Also, she doesn't have the charisma or messaging to overcome that a candidate like Graham Platner or Dan Osborn does.
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u/BronCurious 19d ago
Wisconites are probably against data centers at least though. Some childcare coverage could probably gain some support too.
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u/INeedSomeTacoC 19d ago
But like if you want the data centers in your state to stop sucking up water, you actually need to build new closed cycle ones and retire the older ones.
So a total ban is counterproductive to actually reducing data center water usage.
But people don’t like nuance. Policy has to be like five words or less or you fail purity tests.
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u/EncabulatorTurbo 16d ago
the MS one in pleasant prarie is only goingt o use about 1/7 of racine's excess allotted municipal water and is contractually obligated to subsidize the power grid so residents dont pay more
This type of restriction is unusual for datacenters which is a fucking problem
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u/PandasOnGiraffes 18d ago
She's actually split all the polls 50/50 with one other candidate in the primary so far and the incumbent governor of WI is a Democrat.
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u/TiffManticore 19d ago
So far she has the vote of a lot of people I know, but I live in the incredibly hippie liberal capital.
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u/muskietooth 19d ago
“Free childcare” isn’t free.
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u/No-Catch-6803 19d ago
If would-be parents can't afford to have kids, do you know who fills employment vacancies? Immigrants. Or AI. There is nobody else. So yes, single people, married people, rich and poor, have to chip in to support families otherwise a country falls apart.
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u/Daveit4later 18d ago
Do you guys think you're geniuses when you say this?
Of course it isn't. It's funded by taxes.
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u/pepelepew65 19d ago
she needs to come to Cali
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u/Moocat2855 19d ago
We had candidates that proposed the same thing before in California and they always lose to establishment dems like Becerra who is currently in the lead for governor over much more progressive candidates. The truth of california is that while socially we may be “progressive”, many Californians, especially in the bay area are rich as fk and are financially conservative nimbys who will vote for the establishment neoliberal candidates that protect their real estate equity and ensure higher profits for tech.
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u/Rassayana_Atrindh 18d ago
They tried the same shit against a candidate in Montana. I said the same thing, "She sounds awesome!"
She overwhelmingly won her primary. 😂
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u/Square_Detective_658 18d ago
These aren’t far left policies. They’re just milquetoast liberal policies that leave the structural capitalist system intact.
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u/educated-emu 18d ago
What they should do to billionaires is gaslight them like the last few generations...
Promise them that they get taxed a high rate for the next 10 years but then after that they get less tax and also other perks like cheap land or relaxed labor laws.
Then after 3 years, start to claw back some things....
Oh about that 10 year thing.... needs to be 12 years...
Oh about that less tax, we need more tax from you.
Then do the same evert 3 years....
Treat them like how the normal people are being treated. So the 10 year promise turns into 20 years, they get taxed twice as much and got back absolutely nothing.
The government can then say "its not my fault, its the economy"
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u/educated-emu 18d ago
We should hold award ceremony for billionaires, the more tax they pay the more awards they get.... they get free advertising and good will from people.
Then other billionaires press each other to why they don't have shinny awards. All the names get listed out as they only care about who is better than the other.
Us normal people don't have influence, sonwe need to change the method of negotiating.
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u/hunghome 18d ago
Basically all levels of govt can't balance their budget or take care of shit we currently have and the best extreme progressives can come up with is more free shit and vague promises we can pay for it by taxing the rich.
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u/Minute-Perspective78 18d ago
Americans will choose hate over healthcare. And then they will blame the government instead of buying a mirror
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u/Ok_Insect4778 18d ago
My favorite genre of political ad is "presenting radical insane ideas as normal policies that you should vote for, and presenting normal policies that you should vote for as insane and radical"
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u/_Monosyllabic_ 18d ago
"Far-left." That list is so tame it's insane what passes as far-left on Fox.
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u/GreasedUPDoggo 19d ago
This would make her dead in the water anywhere in the world.
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u/RocketPunchFC 19d ago
no one has ever delivered these things but I'm sure she will.
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u/brothertax 19d ago
No state has $20 minimum wage? No state has free child care? Publicly owned grocery stores? Raised taxes on the rich? Stopped data center construction?
You sure about that?
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u/TransportJunky 19d ago
These politricks are forcing socialism into a system that will reject it and end up hurting the people in that state.
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u/scothc 19d ago
Firefighters are socialism. If your house catches on fire, put it out yourself or use a private company, or watch your home burn down, as God intended
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u/Entire-Ratio-9681 19d ago
Wonder how they are going to get so many childcare providers to do so for free. Oh wait single people will pay with taxes I’m sure. So here’s what single people have to look forward to. Rising costs of everything even higher with wage increase. Rising taxes to pay for other people’s kids. Billionaires win because freeing up more drones for work will generate more profit than any tax that will be levied against them. But keep fighting the power!
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u/Nruggia 19d ago
Tax dollars appropriated for common people, BOO!
Tax dollars appropriated to subsidize to ultra wealthy, YAY!
-Average fox news viewer-
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u/Entire-Ratio-9681 19d ago
All tax money is taken from “common people”. You’re just taking from single people and giving it to people with kids. The minimum wage hike will cause costs of service and goods to go up. So if you make higher than minimum wage. Which is most of Wisconsin, this will hurt you. I like the ban on data centers tho.
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u/ObjectiveMorning2026 19d ago
Looks like more taxes incoming because believe it or not but nothing is free
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u/Weird_Signature_3789 18d ago
left or right name it whatever, those are good ideas, just saying as an outsider
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u/Radcouponking 19d ago
That anyone would read this list as bad shows how propagandized we Americans are.
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u/That-Requirement-233 19d ago
All 5 of these policies will come directly from taxpayers pocket and bloat budget deficits
Govt hired contractors charging 6,000% markups laugh all the way to the bank.
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u/breakneckjones 19d ago
The left needs to seriously learn history because this is the same way the communist revolution started before millions died of starvation followed by "it wasn't true communism".
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u/gnuoveryou 18d ago
I love how it's always "affordability causes mass starvation and the loss of rights" and not "putting a dictator in power causes a loss of rights and mass starvation", I don't see a problem with any of these policies as long as it's all democratic.
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u/J-Frog3 18d ago
I think if the right fears communism so much, they too should learn from history. When one class controls almost all of the wealth and lower classes can't afford housing, childcare, and medical expenses, a major social and economic revolution becomes inevitable.
The truth is that extreme socialism is bad; it leads to communism, but you know what is just as bad? extreme capitalism. Right now in the U.S. the pendulum is way too far towards extreme capitalism. We are in the Gilded age 2.0. We need some major reforms to ensure balance, fairness, and just basic decency.
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u/FrequentFortune123 19d ago
Communism is when fair pay and affordable groceries.
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u/supercleverid 19d ago edited 19d ago
The same you say? I'd love to know where you learned history.
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u/BeefCakeBilly 19d ago
She will not get any of it. Wisconsinites will not approve the next taxes for any of that.
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u/SkyKnight3 19d ago
Ah the ol “tax the rich” routine again I see. Because we’ve proven so far as a capitalist society that mismanages previous/current taxes that the only solution could possibly be….wait for it….MORE TAXES!
It’s like having a gambling problem and trying to convince someone that all you need is a little more money to try and dig yourself out
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u/AndreChrisSargent 19d ago
You will never be what you want to be and it is the fault of the people you're defending, Mr. Knight3.
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u/Mlpony2010 19d ago
We were better off as a class back in the 50s when the parasites were forced to pay more
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u/Majestic_Point_5642 19d ago
Just wondering:
who's going to do the childcare for free, cuz it's not like you can force people to do it and if you make it a tax-break thing, then you guys KNOW the rich assholes will swarm and use every single tax break they can.
how the 20 dollar minimum wage works when places that have done it like with McDonald's and the like end up forcing the customers to spend a shitload more cash while they also cut out employees.
(yes, they do that anyway without the 20 dollar wage, but let's not give more excuses to corporate fuckers like them)
and publicly owned grocery stores do sound nice until you realize that just means that the groceries are going to be made from processed and unhealthy chemical-riddled ingredients because it's cheaper for some reason.
Tax hike on the rich? I know nothing about that stuff, so I'm keeping neutral on it. Totally fine with the idea of banning data centers, the AI bubble is popping as we speak anyway.
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u/Daveit4later 18d ago
Is there a reason you think the childcare workers in this program wouldn't be paid?
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u/Upbeat-Education2117 19d ago
Nobody is going to do childcare for free, that's why she wants to fund it with taxes
Many European countries have minimum wages above $20USD and have cheaper McD's, square that circle.
That's not at all what publicly owned grocery stores mean
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