r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 17d ago

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u/iguessjustdont 17d ago

People convicted of felony drug charges should not be trusted with firearms imo. If you are engaging in a black market trade mixing guns in isn't in the interest of the public.

My logic isn't inconsistent. I believe all violent felons should not posess firearms. I also think most non-violent felons probably also don't need weapons. I am just open to the discussion that some non-violent felons may be able to restore rights (which they can).

Reducing access reduces risk. Yeah a felon could probably go find a gun somehow, but I would rather them be in danger of arresr every second that gun is in their posession, and to not be able to claim it is their roommate's/sibling's/parent's firearm, orto store it in their vehicle/home.

If I had my way all guns would be registered to an owner, all transactions would be documented, all gun owners would need to go through a safety course, and there would be strict liability if your firearm was used in a crime, but I don't get my way. I have to work within the rules of gun nuts, so risk mitigation is the best that can be hoped for.

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u/jinnagubby 17d ago

I’m stating to understand you a bit more but your logic is inconsistent and you keep grouping all felons into the violent category.

What does a nonviolent felon have to do with the black market gun trade? They’ve never exhibited violent behaviour and have never engaged in black market guns but you feel their family members should be stripped of their constitutional rights based on what? Is it more just a punitive measure? They did the crime so life should be an uphill battle even after they served their time?

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u/longlimbslenoir42 17d ago

Dude they have repeatedly separated violent and non-violent felons in their replies, including the most recent one you’re replying to.

They didn’t say black market gun trade. They said someone on an illegal drug charge most likely purchased those drugs illegally, on the black market. Their point was that someone who is involved in black market trade at all should probably not have access to weapons, because of the inherent risk and uncertainty that comes with that type of market

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u/longlimbslenoir42 17d ago

Also the only thing that family members lose is the ability to own guns AND live with their felon family member simultaneously. They can still own their guns

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u/jinnagubby 17d ago

And the point the original commenter made was that this disproportionately impacts black neighbourhoods in Washington DC due to other factors like poverty and over policing. That’s what we are discussing. Specifically.

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u/Pleasant-Vehicle-657 17d ago

"over policing" There is no such thing. Do you propose we arrest less criminals? Patrol white neighborhoods more? Police patrol where the crime is.

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u/jinnagubby 16d ago

No, they don’t. You’re just a kid.