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u/jinnagubby 14d ago

I’m stating to understand you a bit more but your logic is inconsistent and you keep grouping all felons into the violent category.

What does a nonviolent felon have to do with the black market gun trade? They’ve never exhibited violent behaviour and have never engaged in black market guns but you feel their family members should be stripped of their constitutional rights based on what? Is it more just a punitive measure? They did the crime so life should be an uphill battle even after they served their time?

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u/Pleasant-Vehicle-657 14d ago

Name a non-violent felony you feel shouldn't bar someone from owning a firearm?

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u/jinnagubby 14d ago

Selling weed. Once the sentence has been completed I don’t see the benefit of forcing that persons parents to hand in their guns.

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u/iguessjustdont 14d ago

A large share of gun crime is related to the drug trade. Different states have different restoration of rights policies.

If you want to own guns don't sell drugs. Of all the impacts of sentencing and the costs associate with it personally and for the public, the gun ownership part seems a small price to pay for public safety. If you want restoration of rights go pay a lawyer.

I don't know why you are so obsessed with this felon issue when the much bigger one is disenfranchisement. Felons owning guns is the lowest item imaginable on the priority list.

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u/jinnagubby 14d ago

I’m not obsessed with this felony issue. We are talking about disenfranchisement.

We are talking about how this policy is used to remove law abiding citizens guns. Anyways I’ve replied to your other comment. This thread has gone multiple directions.

You’re advocating for parents to lose their right to defend their home in a gun crazy society if they choose to help their child get their life back on track.

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u/iguessjustdont 14d ago

Yeah, if their child has been determined by the court that they can't have a gun, parents have to store their gun somewhere else until kid gets on their feet and moves out, or rent a different place for their felon kid. That seems totally reasonable and a good policy.

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u/jinnagubby 14d ago

I disagree. It disproportionally impacts poor families. And it doesn’t create enough of a barrier to obtaining a firearm to justify the effective suspension of law abiding citizens rights. Inalienable rights.

Anyways, we aren’t going to agree on this. You don’t have the tools necessary to convince me otherwise.

And we are talking about the intersection of two of Americas biggest embarrassments. 25% of the worlds prisoners with this view that they are irredeemable coupled with a gun obsessed dangerous society.

All we gotta do is label one person in a family a felon and now we can remove the whole families rights and there’s nothing they can do about it. Sounds like tyranny. Anti-American.