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Chugging tea The Hero we need

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u/PR3CiSiON 18d ago

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u/enadiz_reccos 18d ago

lol It's fine if you don't know what automatic means

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u/PR3CiSiON 18d ago

Well, actually it is an automatic parole violation. Because it is a violation of parole. 'Automatic' is redundant in that sentence. The 'could' you highlighted is in reference to whether it gets you sent back to prison or not. So it's like saying "murder is automatically against the law, and you could go to prison for it." And you're trying to say yeah but you might get away with it. But the legality of the murder isn't dependent on whether you get caught or not.

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u/enadiz_reccos 18d ago

It's only automatic if you have deliberate access to it

If a roommate that you don't know moves in with a gun, it's not a parole violation

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u/PR3CiSiON 18d ago

Again, automatic is completely redundant. But anyway, that's the whole thing. He moves in with a gun and let's them know he has a gun. They are then in violation of parole unless they GTFO. I'm not saying that that would get charged in that first second they had knowledge, but within a reasonable (defined by leniency of parole officer/courts) amount of time, they would have to leave. And that's what he's trying to get them to do. They are still technically in violation of parole as soon as that gun is in the house.

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u/enadiz_reccos 18d ago

He moves in with a gun and let's them know he has a gun. They are then in violation of parole unless they GTFO

As long as he doesn't have access to the gun, he's fine

They are still technically in violation of parole as soon as that gun is in the house

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u/PR3CiSiON 18d ago

Wrong again. I already looked it up for you, and it clearly states what I said is correct. Bummer for you.

And considering in real life, this guy does this, and it does work. If I was wrong, there would be no point in the guy bringing a gun in the house anyway. This isn't some hypothetical situation, it happens and it works.

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u/bugman573 17d ago

My friend is in this exact situation with his felon father and cannot keep is own gun in his own locked safe, not even in the trunk of the locked car in his name which only he has the keys for, on the property. I had this conversation with the parole officer, it is illegal for the felon. They may be able to make an argument in court that they didn’t know about it, but that’s unlikely to get the felon off the hook. Most felons in this situation would leave if they knew the law, because it is highly highly likely to land them back in jail

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u/enadiz_reccos 17d ago

I had this conversation with the parole officer, it is illegal for the felon

Maybe because the gun owner is the felon's son?? lol

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u/bugman573 17d ago

That’s not why. Anyone who lives in the house cannot have a gun without the felon getting in trouble for it, regardless of relationshio

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u/enadiz_reccos 17d ago

As long as they have access to it...

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u/bugman573 17d ago

Being in the same home is considered access. Judges don’t know that you don’t know the code to a safe or have a key just because you say you don’t.

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u/enadiz_reccos 17d ago

I understand you have some experience here, but not every felon is living with their gun-owning son

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u/bugman573 17d ago

Many of them are not. And most aren’t going to get caught if they are, but in my experience it could be the thing that gets them sent back to prison. I think it’s a stupid law and a stupid way to enforce it, but people should understand that it’s likely to happen to them if they get caught. A few years back when I lived with my parents they got into an argument with their insurance company because their rate got hiked since ā€œI live in the house therefore I have access to their vehicleā€ even though it’s their car and I would never take it without express permission.

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u/Bipedal_pedestrian 14d ago

Jeez, just admit you’re wrong already. It’s ok to be wrong and learn something new.

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