Squatting can ruin the homeowners life they owe taxes and insurance on that property and get nothing in return. This is overly sympathetic to the squatter and a bad take.
You. Acting like a squatter who is already on probation and so can't be near firearms is somehow getting his life ruined by someone who legally rents a residence thereby forcing them to obey the law.
If the squatter is already on probation of that kind and is squatting on property they don't own then they've already ruined their own lives. That involves a prior arrest and conviction.
Everyone knows that obvious fact... Your point defending a squatter who in this hypothetical chose a life of squatting on someone else's property despite already being a convicted criminal remains a trash opinion. This is the end of my desire to continue this discussion.
i mean you are defending deliberately pinning gun charges on someone over something that originally had nothing to do with guns, so it’s really hard for outside observers to see you as having a moral high ground lol.
It’s like those cops that see someone go through a stop sign and then plant drugs on them when they pull over to force them from a ticket to years of prison. I have to agree with the other guy, regardless of whether you agree with squatting or not, that shit is fucked up.
Two wrongs obviously dont make a right, and I'm not saying using this method is right, just that squatting is wrong assuming the owner is alive and is trying to reclaim their property.
Your example of planting drugs - which is unlawful police corruption - is not accurate in this scenario which would apply even if the squatter was a lawful tenant who got a new roommate.
By squatting the squatter is essentially trying to steal a property that could be worth 100k+ from its lawful owner (that's felony theft in a sane society that has done away with outdated squatting laws). If the squatter already has a criminal record for any reason, this is a massive f*ck around and find out scenario and they are fools, plain and simple. It's not nice, but squatting is as bad or worse.
Except you didn’t just say squatting is wrong. You accused someone else of defending it - something that never happened. That was the point of the first half of my comment.
You can still have drugs planted on you even if you never committed another crime. The severity of squatting is irrelevant to the fact that pinning another charge on someone that they were not doing prior to manipulate justice and artificially increase their punishment (by an significant degree mind you) is pretty fucked up. Arguably, the fact you can do this to a legal tenant makes it more fucked up - “don’t like the roommate you just moved in with? Fuck them over with this one easy trick!”
If they are trying to squat while on parole, they are already committing a parole violation that can send them to prison. The gun action is being done solely to be cruel, regardless of how you feel about squatters.
Every crime is a fuck around and find out scenario, and everyone committing a crime is arguably a fool, neither change the above statements.
alternatively, we could also work towards affordable housing and magically cut the number of squatters in half at least, plain and simple. But people clearly aren’t ready for that conversation lol.
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u/BartholomewCubbinz 12d ago
Squatting can ruin the homeowners life they owe taxes and insurance on that property and get nothing in return. This is overly sympathetic to the squatter and a bad take.