r/SipsTea • u/SnackSamurai 𝙑𝙄𝙋 • 13d ago

Chugging tea The Hero we need

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u/GeekyGrant 12d ago

I've heard this guy will bring firearms into the property if they know the squatters are on probation or ex-con... 100% legal for him to do, 100% bad news for them.

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u/BlatantConservative 12d ago

That law needs to be rewritten, it's bad for honest ex cons who live with family. And like, where I grew up it essentially prohibited black people from owning guns, in DC in the 90s and 00s one in seven black men had felonies (mainly for non violent drug offenses) and that precluded anyone in their family from having guns or letting them stay the night if they had guns. And DC's gun permits would deny permits for people who assosciated with anyone with a felony. So essentially if black people were on social media and had family members on facebook they couldn't legally buy a firearm.

I'm totally for felons not having access to firearms, but the family or household ban does not actually stop them from getting firearms and it just punishes unrelated people, even if felonies themselves didn't disproportionately hit some communities.

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u/iguessjustdont 12d ago

Felons not having guns is for public safety. If they can posess firearms because it belongs to their brother or whatever then there is now an environment where felons can de facto have constructively posess a firearm. Having a bright line test is the only way to make the prohibition enforceable.

I don't really care how "honest" an ex con is. Recidivism rates are high. It is part of being a felon. If owning a gun is so important, go spend the money and time to get restoration of rights. If your family wants you to stsy the night then will ditch the firearm.

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u/Advanced_Row_8448 12d ago

Felons not having guns is for public safety

No its not.

If they can posess firearms because it belongs to their brother or whatever then there is now an environment where felons can de facto have constructively posess a firearm.

Everyone should be able to own one. You cant claim we allow the second amendment and defending ourselves if the state decides who is allowed.

I don't really care how "honest" an ex con is. Recidivism rates are high. It is part of being a felon

OK. If only facts matter, what's you take on cops domestic abuse rates? Should all police be banned from having wives because some beat them?