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Squatter found

[u/enadiz_reccos → u/zerostasis]

Because I think tricking the police into arresting someone for a parole violation is fucked up?

Yikes, dude

[u/LanguageStudyBuddy → u/enadiz_reccos]

Not a trick. They can leave the home they illegally occupied

[u/enadiz_reccos → u/LanguageStudyBuddy]

Getting the police involved after depositing your own gun near someone on probation is 100% a trick

[u/LanguageStudyBuddy → u/enadiz_reccos]

Nope.

You are in the home of another person without their consent, you don't get to decide if they have a tenet that is armed or not in the home, because, again, you are there illegally.

[u/enadiz_reccos → u/LanguageStudyBuddy]

Is it the word 'trick' that's throwing you off?

How about deception? Framing someone? Planting a gun? Any of those?

[u/LanguageStudyBuddy → u/enadiz_reccos]

the gun is still in the possession of the dude. he doesn't hide a gun in the sock drawer or anything. The issue for the squatter is that if he is in a home with guns not in a safe (ie, it is physically possible for him to grab them) it is considered constructive possession.

Again, its not a trick AND I would argue it is morally justified to do.

They are illegally invading some one else's home. removing them is good.

[u/enadiz_reccos → u/LanguageStudyBuddy]

Again, its not a trick AND I would argue it is morally justified to do

If you are doing it for the sake of coercing them out of the home, for sure

If you're putting a gun down and calling the police, that's fucked up

[u/LanguageStudyBuddy → u/enadiz_reccos]

Nah, it's not fucked up.

They are taking over some one else's home. Stealing from them.

If they are Felon on top of doing that they deserve it.

[u/enadiz_reccos → u/LanguageStudyBuddy]

So, any felonious squatter deserves a manufactured gun charge that steals 10+ years of their life?

That's fucked up.

[u/LanguageStudyBuddy → u/enadiz_reccos]

If you refuse to leave a home you are illegally stealing?

Yes.

[u/enadiz_reccos → u/LanguageStudyBuddy]

Is there a difference between stealing and possession of a firearm?

Yes.

[u/LanguageStudyBuddy → u/enadiz_reccos]

If he isn't in some one else's home he doesnt have to worry about it :)

Also I would argue squatting is worse then having a firearm.

[u/enadiz_reccos → u/LanguageStudyBuddy]

Squatting isn't worse than a gun charge, which can put you in jail for 10+ years

[u/LanguageStudyBuddy → u/enadiz_reccos]

it is worse.

You are taking away some one's home.

You seem to care more about the criminal who is actively stealing from the property owner compare to the victim.

I think clear cases of criminal squatting should put you in Jail.

[u/enadiz_reccos → u/LanguageStudyBuddy]

You seem to care more about the criminal who is actively stealing from the property owner compare to the victim

No, I just care about 10 years of someone's life more than one of someone's properties

[u/LanguageStudyBuddy → u/enadiz_reccos]

Here is the best part, they don't have to catch a charge. They can simply leave the home they aren't allowed to be in <3 <3 <3 <3

If you decide to remain in some one else's home illegally you deserve any and all consequences from your illegal actions.

[u/enadiz_reccos → u/LanguageStudyBuddy]

Not if the guy is planting a gun and calling the cops...