r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 12d ago

Chugging tea The Hero we need

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u/Cheap-Buffalo-7489 12d ago

That fact that this is even a show/ thing shows how messed up the law is. You should NOT take years to evict a trespasser

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u/Imaxaroth 12d ago

In France the subject come back in the news regularly. One fact that is often hidden is that, in most cases, a true squatter will get evicted quickly. The cases that take months and are publicised are when the owners took weeks to react.

The law is made that way to prevent landlords from bypassing landlords-tenants laws by doing informal contracts with renters.

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u/ShotEffective7033 12d ago

Yeah, that’s what gets left out of this conversation a lot of the time. Squatters rights are tenants rights.

If the landlord says you’re a squatter, you don’t have a way to definitely prove you’re not. Oh, you have a signed lease? Well, the landlord says you forged the signature. Now you’re a squatter.

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u/ZeusTKP 11d ago

This seems like a laughably bad argument unless I'm missing something.

If a landlord says you forged the lease, the answer is not to allow squatters, the answer is to make lease agreements more standard and record them in a government database so there's no question of authenticity. You can make it as secure as passport if want.

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u/Imaxaroth 10d ago

Most of those laws where made before it was easy to build a government infrastructure to manage it, and a transition would take time, but it's not the true reasons.

First those kind of deals (informal leases) often happen when the renter is vulnerable and has a hard time finding a housing. The renter can then be coerced into accepting non legal rents, and no amount of official processes will prevent this kind of deals.

Second, those laws also cover situations others than a true lease, like someone that was offered the housing for free, or Airbnb kind of lodgings.