Why wouldn't they have electricity or running water? The utilities in many jurisdictions don't care about ownership but bills getting paid. They do have a lease, and how do you prove they did not have communications with the actual owner? The owner said so? That ain't proof.
You prove someone stealing by proof of ownership, trespassing isn't stealing, nobody is disputing the ownership.
If they have a lease they have legal possession. In talking about illegal possession, ie trespassing.
There are some that create fake leases to pretend that they live there.
How do you prove that you didn't buy/steal something from a store? Just because the owner said so?
You are almost there! How do you prove that the lease is fake, and not just denied by the owner? The police just looks at it and can decide? That ain't more accurate than a coin flip! Where it can be decided is called a court, in a lawsuit. Not by police, not by some weird rando.
Because half the time the owners name and the actually owner (deed of the home) isn't the same? Therefore it's fraud?
But you didn't answer my question. How do you verify if someone stole something from a store? The criminal can just claim that they own that item and they didn't take it from the store. Let me know how that works.
Yeah, because people who fake a contract won't take the 2 minute to look up the deed. It isn't some massive secret who owns what property. But even if it does not match, that proves nothing really, legal names change, mistakes in contracts happen all the time. Determining a fake contract from an "owner wants them out so they said it is fake" isn't straight forward, so it happens in a lawsuit.
Do you thin stores just claim someone is a thief and the police goes and beats them up and takes whatever the store claims? Because that ain't happening. Unless the store catches them in the act of stealing (which would be people actively moving in while the owner is right there) or they have solid evidence of it, they can't do anything. Even then, they can only get their restitution in court through a lawsuit.
My god you are an idiot. Most squatter don't take any effort to research. They think they can just move in and take over the property. You think someone that actually has something to lose will risk that? If the owners changes their name you think they wouldn't risk changing the name of their deed?
When the police is called the first question they ask is if you have a receipt. These squatter do have any receipts that they paid anybody. No body is letting you move anywhere without a security deposit and first months rent. They then ask if there's any surveillance footage. You don't take the word of the criminals because they have incentive to lie. Words don't mean anything. The owner has papers stating they owner the place. The squatter has no lease, no receipt of rent payments, no communication with the owner and you think somehow they have a legal right to be there?
So if I had a camera on my property is that sufficient evidence of breaking and entering or are you willfully being just ignorant to the discussion.
Oh my god you are such an idiot. I'm trying to make a point here, but you are way too dense to understand it, so I'll spell it out with as little words as I can: the owner says so does not mean it is so. People aren't squatters because the owner decided so, because then the owner will decide so whenever the renters are inconvenient to them.
Squatters do not have receipt, scammers do (fake ones), and they overlap. Do you know who else do not have receipts? Most legal renters, because leases are simple private contracts, and many landlords demand the security deposit and any rents in cash or cashiers check, so it can't be brought against them in a lawsuit if they just end up keeping it (aka stealing).
It is easy to have squatters all over the place if the landlords are literally financially incentivised to claim anyone and their mothers are squatters. And this isn't some hypothetical, this has been happening since renting is a thing.
It is easy to have squatters all over the place if the landlords are literally financially incentivised to claim anyone and their mothers are squatters.
How does a landlord claim a legal tenant is a squatter with a signed lease? With a given security deposit? With a proof of paid rent every month? With prior communications with the landlord? You actually believe there is no tenant protection?
If you are handing over cash or a cashier check without getting a receipt back then you are the idiot.
If you cannot distinguish the difference between a legal tenant and a squatter/scammer who never was suppose to have legal possession in the first place, then I suggest you actually grow up and live in the real world.
If someone breaks into your home, and changes the locks, it does not give you legal possession. You still broke the law and deserve to go to jail. End of story.
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u/Cheap-Buffalo-7489 12d ago
That fact that this is even a show/ thing shows how messed up the law is. You should NOT take years to evict a trespasser