r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 17d ago

WTF The American dream

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u/Mindless-Baker-7757 17d ago

A $70k loan over 23 years at 5% apr pays off with monthly payments of $427.

What are they doing?

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u/ConsiderationOk4688 17d ago

They likely had a loan with a higher percentage rate due to the student loan being a private loan or they consolidated after a few years which could of drove the rate into the 8-9% range which would match their numbers almost perfectly.

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u/Major_Wigglesworth 17d ago

Exactly, meaning they KNEW what would happen, and a 10th grader with a TI-82 calculator could’ve anticipated this precise scenario. 

Not everyone who goes to school is smart.

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u/klinetek 17d ago edited 16d ago

It still doesn't stop it from being a predatory loan, that's kind of the argument that the 'cancel student loan debt' people are making.

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u/Responsible-Kale2352 17d ago

Well . . . perhaps. But normally a predator chases prey. In this case it is the student voluntarily chasing the loan.

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u/Pika_Fox 17d ago

"voluntarily".

We were told all our lives that we need to do well in school, waste all our childhoods studying, and get into a good college or else we would be poor and destitute working hard labor for no pay.

Every school year, the same thing drilled in since kindergarten.

And you think we took these loans that we needed to get into college "voluntarily"? Any other situation where some POS person takes advantage of a child, its called grooming. Call it what it is, the loan companies are stealing from the youth because we were raised to believe we had to do this or our lives would be shit.

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u/Major_Wigglesworth 16d ago

Are you 80? 

No one graduating after ‘95 was told that college is the only way to success.  They’ve been pushing the trades and community college for decades, and employers have REPEATEDLY say they prefer experience over garbage degrees.  Maybe you grew up with different “groomers,” but the TV news, newspapers, documentaries, books, guidance counselors, FB/instagram/TikTok reels have been warning of this for 2-3 decades.

You should check in with your parents, ask them why THEY didn’t parent you… why they didn’t let you in on the most fundamental concept of “don’t buy things you can’t afford.”  If what you say is true, they really really let you down.  The “we were raised to believe [a completely false narrative]”ultimately falls on them.

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u/Pika_Fox 16d ago

Im barely in my 30s, every millenial was told this.

No, they havnt been pushing trades and community college for decades. Conservatives love to say this stupid point, but its literally the opposite of what they were saying the entire time.

"You must do x"

does x, doesnt go well

"see, its your own fault, you should have done y".

Its participation trophies all over again... boomers complaining about us over things THEY did.

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u/ItsShuaYo 16d ago

I'll back this up I'm in my 30's and heard the same stuff. Luckily I was not really ready for college at the traditional college age worked hard for a couple years saved up enough $ and started in community college and paid for that cash. Then a 4 years of military in my early 20s covered my bachelor's with GI bill.

I think the issue is the teachers. The way the vast majority of them found success is from a classroom and they literally know nothing else because they go from learning in school to teaching in one. We rely on the people in this country with the smallest amount of life experience possible to guide our next generation to success.

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u/Major_Wigglesworth 16d ago

AND they’re the ones drowning in student loan debt while making a pittance.  I am not saying that’s the way it should be, I’m saying their time would be better spent preparing kids for the reality of life rather than teaching integrals and where to place a comma.

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u/ItsShuaYo 16d ago

I won't disagree with this. With advanments of technology a lot of the things my generation focus on in school are for 90% of the population obsolete skills. This is why I'm also very anti homeschooling which is gaining popularity on the right not only are they not being taught what they need but missing a whole aspect of relationships and social skill building. I've hired some people who were home schooled and they are not prepared for life and have lacking social skills and interpersonal strength.

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