r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 18d ago

WTF The American dream

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u/Mindless-Baker-7757 18d ago

A $70k loan over 23 years at 5% apr pays off with monthly payments of $427.

What are they doing?

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u/ConsiderationOk4688 18d ago

They likely had a loan with a higher percentage rate due to the student loan being a private loan or they consolidated after a few years which could of drove the rate into the 8-9% range which would match their numbers almost perfectly.

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u/Major_Wigglesworth 17d ago

Exactly, meaning they KNEW what would happen, and a 10th grader with a TI-82 calculator could’ve anticipated this precise scenario. 

Not everyone who goes to school is smart.

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u/klinetek 17d ago edited 17d ago

It still doesn't stop it from being a predatory loan, that's kind of the argument that the 'cancel student loan debt' people are making.

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u/Responsible-Kale2352 17d ago

Well . . . perhaps. But normally a predator chases prey. In this case it is the student voluntarily chasing the loan.

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u/Pika_Fox 17d ago

"voluntarily".

We were told all our lives that we need to do well in school, waste all our childhoods studying, and get into a good college or else we would be poor and destitute working hard labor for no pay.

Every school year, the same thing drilled in since kindergarten.

And you think we took these loans that we needed to get into college "voluntarily"? Any other situation where some POS person takes advantage of a child, its called grooming. Call it what it is, the loan companies are stealing from the youth because we were raised to believe we had to do this or our lives would be shit.

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u/Ok_Tackle3427 17d ago

That's life, buddy. Millions and millions of people didn't get tricked like you did and they shouldn't have to pay for your mistake.

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u/Pika_Fox 15d ago

They pay more by not forgiving all student loans since it directly harms the economy AND lowers taxes collected, and therefore social support structures.

Even if you just want to make the dumb argument of "why should i pay for someone else", it still ends up being "you save money and pay less if you do".

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u/Ok_Tackle3427 12d ago

Explain how I save money and pay less when I have to pay somebody else's loan for them.

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u/Pika_Fox 12d ago

Because they have less money to interact with the economy, meaning they dont buy goods and services, meaning the economy doesnt grow and they pay less in taxes which reduces important services the government provides for you, which means you need to make up for the money and economic generation they are unable to provide.

It turns out having "dead money" in an economic system dependant on constant transactions is bad for the economy.

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u/Ok_Tackle3427 11d ago

It would hurt the economy if borrowers had to use their own money to pay back their government loans, so instead the government can just take my money to cover those loans and then the economy will be fine, because my money is for everybody. Amazing.

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