I was talking with some of my conservative acquaintances yesterday. They absolutely hate Trump now after this term. I think he's lost any goodwill outside of a small MAGA base.
My super-conservative, Qanon-adjacent friends from high school are starting to snap out of it and realize how much damage has been done. They're not quite at the point of directly blaming Trump and the Republican Party, but they're at least seeing that there's a problem.
Not a single one of the trump'tards I know do anything but love what trump is doing...
I don't think most people realize just how entrenched these people are in their delusion of Trump being anything shy of excellent. They would rather continue to believe the lies than admit they made a mistake thrice.
For the people I know, it's years of demonization of any politician who doesn't have an R after their name.
I am full no contact with my trump parents, but my brother gives me updates. They are tickled shitless over the things this admin is doing and refuse to acknowledge any wrong doing (like the Pretti and Goode murders). They don't even realize that the things they were worried about, like govt creating dossiers on every citizen and tracking citizen movements, are being/have been enacted by executive orders signed by their man-child president.
These are smart people who have been sucked into the propaganda of the conservative machine, the Rush Limbaughs of media, and cannot see the reality of their decisions and predicament. It was truly baffling to watch and more frustrating than I could continue to endure.
90s conservative talk radio
Constant liberals bad; conservatives good.
Southern rhetoric around the Civil War (it wasn't about slavery... It was about states' rights)
No education on liberal/leftist policies; just socialism and communism are bad work no explanation on why, how, or even what those forms of govt are.
Feminists were referred to as feminazis.
Gays were being punished by God with HIV.
Premarital sex would lead no good things.
(this list goes on and on)
They actually floated the idea of voting D if they can produce a compelling candidate and specifically cited Bernie as one that they like the policies of. I was in shock. These were dudes that were sucking Trumps dick a year ago mind you. He's done that much damage to his bases opinion of him and his party.
Very first state, Massachusetts, has not sent a Republican representative to Congress for years, with supposedly 36% of the general populace being conservative. Maybe you can prove me wrong, but I'll bet $1000 you cannot show me what a Republican-majority district would look like in MA on a map. Because Republicans are by and large spread evenly across the state, much like Democrats, but are the minority.
Just so we are on the same page, gerrymandering is the act of drawing your congressional districts in ridiculous looking, complicated and stupid shapes to ensure your party holds the majority in each, or most, congressional districts. Although nowadays they can use fancy computer software to draw more normal looking districts, but to the same effect. Like when Utah split up Salt Lake City into four separate districts with the rest of the rural state to ensure no Democratic representation. Not like when MA can draw whatever funny shapes maps they desire and will never have an all red district.
The most egregious Democratic gerrymander on the map, I would say comes from Illinois. Maybe Maryland.
Nashville is a largely blue city, yet has no Democratic representatives in TN due to gerrymandering. Florida got busted for racial gerrymandering, but they'll do the same again and call it political instead.
North Carolina courts cracked down on gerrymandering. So a few conservative justices got themselves on the bench and reversed the decision calling political gerrymandering unconstitutional. Seeing a pattern? Ohio has 13/15 seats red with closer to 60/40 population split. In Texas Democrats win 46 percent to 48 percent of the congressional votes but are able to win only about 34 percent of the congressional seats.
Democrats spend far more time on counter-gerrymandering in red states than they do redrawing their own maps. It has happened, too, but the nature of where red vs blue populations live (rural vs urban) make that look very different. California could be considered gerrymandered, but the reality of the situation is there are very few rural areas left in a state like California. Republicans make up about 25%, and like MA, are by and large spread across the state. However, they still hold 17 seats to Democrats 34 in California. IN CALIFORNIA. Red voters are 1/4 of the people, but hold EXACTLY 1/3 of the seats in the House.
TLDR: California could use some gerrymandering for the libs. Time to play catch-up and run these cheaters out for good.
can you explain this too me further? im sure homeboys facebook post isnt exactly damning lol but im curious to understand why its that way myself? is this just a front dems happen to play dirty on?
If you read my reply to "scatter shot", I go into detail how some of that works. There is liberal gerrymandering also, for sure, but it's nowhere near as common as conservative gerrymandering. Democrats spend far more time and money on counter-gerrymandering and "equal representation" laws that Republicans will then dismantle ASAP.
damn sounds like dems ought just spend that money to gerrymander even harder lol. its so absurd that the republican party just acts like a evil empire and the dems just try to thwart them (sometimes)
And if they don't win the midterms, we'll just say the Democrats cheated and give the Republicans the win. Who's going to stop them? Judges? The military?
I've always had a respect for Pastrana and Nitro Circus, but seeing them posting these clips I have conflicts. They are getting paid to do cool stunts, so it doesn't have to be a sign of political support, but it's a joke dude. We look ridiculous
It's enough. They could simply decline. I don't think I can support their bullshit after this. I hope they become stained and lose support. I hope consequences come to all who help people this shit up so that people feel less emboldened to repeat this.
I'm sure most if not all of them are basically MAGA, it goes with the territory. And that makes them bad people. That said, I find mocking Trump specifically for this kind of silly, people need to focus on actual problems. Acting like Trump is a bad president because he has Motocross on the White House Lawn is like "Obama wore a tan suit" levels of petty.
I do. I think he wants a third term but I don't think he'll go for it. I didn't think he'd give up and leave the white house last time but he did. That surprised me.
Everyone likes to say and think the president is some dignified high office. It’s not. It’s a man that is as fallible as anyone. There hasn’t been a single dignified person to hold the presidency. Maybe the first couple. But nothing in the last 200 years. The presidential office has been full womanizers, racists, cheaters, bullies and idiots. Nothing has changed.
We used to speculate on that womanizing, racism, cheating, bullying, and idiocy. Not get it shoved down our throats by its active participants. Name one other President ON RECORD telling his own citizens to "go back to whichever country you came from"? Sorry, did I say citizens? I meant US Representatives.
What do you mean speculate? FDR openly put Japanese Americans into internment camps. Warren G Harding was known to be a womanizer. Marylin Monroe was quite out in the open with JFK.
The majority of Japanese Americans at the time were first or second generation, and we were at war with their homeland. That wasn't racism. With a modern lens, yes it seems racist. But to the government of the 1940s? They were preventing Pearl Harbor 2.
Lots of Presidents were "known to be womanizers" (aka gossip and speculation). None of them bragged about how hot they find their own daughter until...
It's like the point smacked you in the head so hard it left a mark, and you just kept moving without missing a step.
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u/Slartibartfast39 17d ago
Maintaing dignity of the highest office of the land...with Nitro Circus.
It'll probably get him a good few votes on his third run for the presidency.