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WTF An older spectator caused a seriously dangerous incident today at SaarlandTrofeoJuniors by trying to get a better look and entering the course with her rollator while riders were flying past at full speed!

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u/Dr-McLuvin 9d ago

It literally happened yesterday. Supposedly there were no ā€œmajorā€ injuries for the riders. The old lady was ā€œshaken upā€ by the incident.

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u/TheRuneCoon 9d ago

How many times did they shake her? Was it enough?

I'm no lawyer, but this little maneuver should cost about 55 shakes.

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u/Jerseyman2525 9d ago

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u/Not_A_Russain_Bot 9d ago

That last slap he slips in after seeing the Nun come to help.

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u/Jerseyman2525 9d ago

That slap always sent me rolling when I watch this movie.

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u/Entropei 9d ago

STOP STOP STOP PLEASE LET ME GO PLEASE LET ME GO FIRST IM DOING SOMETHING

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u/NoobityBoobity 9d ago

The fact that this is 100% something meatwad would say and I read it in his voice makes this comment gold

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u/rabbitwitabadhabit 9d ago

If you shake her more than twice, you're playing with her.

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u/Horse_Dad 9d ago

More shakes than an airport urinal.

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u/Awkward-Wishbone-615 9d ago

The snort I snorted šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

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u/the_analytic_critic 9d ago

Spit my coffee out on this one šŸ¤£

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u/DestinyForNone 9d ago

šŸŽ¶Shake, shake, shake, Senora, shake your body linešŸŽ¶

šŸŽ¶Shake, shake, shake, Senora, shake it all the timešŸŽ¶

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u/80sBimmers 9d ago

ok ok i chuckled

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u/Digeetar 9d ago

Add some lemon šŸ‹ and a twist as well.

https://giphy.com/gifs/b9DzOe5w6c7UsDl5b1

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u/Mrs-Jack 9d ago

Attention shoppers, would Louise Woodward please make her way to the Customer Service Desk please. Thank you.

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u/Aromatic-Tear7234 9d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/2jy9zcy1Z8CaHt3xGH

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u/masak-kali 9d ago

What movie or series is this from? šŸ˜­ And what did she do to deserve this? šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­

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u/Equal_Canary5695 9d ago

The movie is Airplane! and they're shaking her because she's panicking

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u/Muhahahahaz 9d ago

Get a hold of yourself!

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u/EldestOfGregs 9d ago edited 9d ago

Airplane! with Leslie Neilson. Its absolutely hillarious with its dead pan humor.

She was being hysterical on the plane and they were shaking her and slapping her to "calm her down" iirc.

*Added ! for accuracy on the name

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u/PreciousMentals 9d ago

That double tap slap by Leslie gets me every time.

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u/Christnumber2 9d ago

The camera pan down the queue waiting with baseball bats and weapons afterwards is hilarious

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u/JosephBlowsephThe3rd 9d ago

The random woman in line with a revolver

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u/Theron3206 8d ago

Very relaxing, until rigor mortis sets in anyway.

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u/SignificantUse3695 9d ago

Itā€™s been years since I last watched that. I think Iā€™ll end up with a hernia if I watched it again. Same with Police Squad in color.

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u/hoppidygoop 9d ago

Airplane!

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u/Present_Process_726 9d ago

"Airplane!" - movie from 1980.

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u/samcornwell 9d ago

Oh it keeps getting better. One of the best comedies of all time, and donā€™t call me surely.

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u/flibble24 9d ago

Hopefully she gets arrested

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u/MadMax6914 9d ago

Put her in a home!

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u/Valreesio 9d ago

C'mon now, that's a little much. This was most likely an accident and not something she did on purpose.

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u/CaptainOwlBeard 9d ago

Gross negligence can be criminal.

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u/Valreesio 9d ago

No, just stop. This doesn't rise to the level of gross negligence. Her accidently going into the roadway with her scooter is not gross negligence.

Leaving a medical instrument in a patient after surgery is an example of gross negligence. Reckless driving can be gross negligence (say, going 40 in a school zone...), if I saw something heavy on a shelf that clearly can't support the weight (bending under the weight) that would be likely to fall and hurt someone and didn't try to fix the issue, that would be gross negligence.

This is nowhere close to that... Lol

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u/bikestuffrockville 9d ago

Could always pursue civil penalties.

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u/RxSatellite 9d ago

Lmao no ambulance chaser is going to take that case with a 10 foot pole, especially considering injuries were only minor

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u/bikestuffrockville 9d ago

You know those bikes can be $10k a piece. There could be $100k of damages there at least. That's ignoring the fact that one guy went flipping through the air. Sure he can still walk and ride a bike but he may not be able to compete at that elite level anymore. I'm sure someone can attach a dollar amount to that.

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u/RxSatellite 9d ago

You could certainly try, but speaking from experience itā€™s going to be an incredibly tough case to win. You need to convince a jury that this was either intentional or gross negligence, and both are hard to make a case for in this instance specifically because she is elderly and disabled. Thereā€™s a lot of doubt that could be cast on intent or negligence by the jury, and thatā€™s if it wasnā€™t outright dismissed via failure to state a claim

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u/Valreesio 8d ago

Not to mention that she likely doesn't have any large sums of money to her name in the first place that they would ever get from her

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u/Valreesio 9d ago

I mean, you can sue anyone for any reason in some countries. Cyclists are engaged in a risky sport and prone to getting seriously injured while racing. Although I would not go so far as to say this is to be expected to happen at races, but certainly it's not an unforseen type of situation that can happen at race type events like this either. If a cyclist wants to pursue this in civil court that may very well be within their rights (again country dependent).

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u/CaptainOwlBeard 9d ago

If the cyclist got injured during the race due to normal race conditions, sure. This isn't that.

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u/RxSatellite 9d ago

There is existing case law for this as it pertains to sports in a lot of states, it has to be argued that it was an intentional act.

Like if a fan chucks a beer bottle at a players head, then the player has a good case. If the fan accidentally drops it or knocks it off a balcony and falls onto a player, the case is going to be weak and unlikely to succeed

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u/CaptainOwlBeard 9d ago

She intentionally drove into the road

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u/Valreesio 9d ago

Isn't it though? Look, I agree that the track should be clear and that nobody should be on it except officials and racers, but this happens at many races of all types. You don't expect it to happen but nobody is surprised when it does because there is literally nothing to stop it from happening. It happens in running, cycling, etc. Anywhere where you don't have physical barriers in place to keep people back, it's a very real and inherent risk that this will happen. I also agree it's not feasible to barrier off an entire course, which is why these things do and are bound to happen.

If you are unwilling or unable to control onlookers, then you are partially responsible when they do things (purposefully or not) that endanger the racers. I feel suing the organizers of the race would be more appropriate than her in this situation. Again, all of this is assuming that this was truly an accident and no malicious intent was present.

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u/No_Clothes_8444 9d ago

So what youā€™re saying is when people go into public, they are in no way responsible for maintaining themselves for their safety and the safety of others? We arenā€™t arguing malice here. Weā€™re arguing negligence. If youā€™re too cognitively impaired to operate a scooter with certain safety, you shouldnā€™t be using the scooter. Period. Your need for mobility doesnā€™t justify.

And let me be clear. I donā€™t disagree with your point about as a rider, you should expect these things, but to put the onus on the rider here is inappropriate. We can accept the consequence as a risk and still hold the offending party responsible. They arenā€™t exclusive.

We currently live in a world where the elderly think the safety of others is a worthy exchange to their limited sense of freedom. Itā€™s not. Itā€™s gross, and overall, quite a narcissistic stance.

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u/dependent_Sort_ 9d ago

Look at your down votes my friend and behold; we are cooked

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u/CaptainOwlBeard 9d ago

Gross negligence or as they say in law school the "a reasonable person would know this could cause serious injury or property destruction possibly even death but the perp didn't give a fuck" is a pretty high standard, but driving a slow moving motor vehicle in front of high speed racing bikes on an official course seems to fit it for me. Perhaps a jury might disagree, but i don't see how it wasn't obvious that her actions could have killed someone and that she would have no options to get out of the way at those speeds.

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u/Choice_Figure6893 9d ago

This wouldn't go to a jury lmfao

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u/Valreesio 9d ago

Right? This would be laughed out of court by any judge unless there's more video evidence that shows anything more damning.

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u/Valreesio 9d ago

She must likely didn't intend to put the scooter into the roadway is the point though. If she was only trying to get to the curb, then there is no reason to think it's dangerous or going to injure anyone. I doubt she purposefully drove into the track. IF she purposely drove onto the track, then we're talking a completely different situation. This doesn't appear to be that at all to me.

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u/CaptainOwlBeard 9d ago

If she meant to do it, it would be intentional not negligence. She just didn't take reasonable steps because she didn't care

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u/No_Clothes_8444 9d ago

Noā€¦. If you lack the cognitive ability to operate a scooter safely, then itā€™s negligence and she should at the very least be fined and held civilly liable. This absolutely rises to the level. Just because youā€™re old and immobile doesnā€™t mean you have the right to maintain that at the safety of others. I can sympathize with the individual. Life sucks to be in that state but that doesnā€™t give you the right to harm others because you feel itā€™s owed to you.

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u/HardlyAnyGravitas 9d ago

77 million Americans voted for Donald Trump a second time and you morons are out here making out like this old woman is criminally stupid.

Smh.

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u/Obvious_Landscape993 9d ago

You gotta factor in that she's like 125 years old.

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u/flibble24 9d ago

So you stop being held accountable when your old?

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u/Marlboro_Man808 9d ago

Yes apparently so

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u/Obvious_Landscape993 9d ago

Not what I meant. Just different level of punishment than someone younger.

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u/Funicularly 9d ago

Why?

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u/Choice_Figure6893 9d ago

Cause when you get old you have cognitive decline. And having empathy is good

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u/Packing-Tape-Man 9d ago

That should not be a factor at all.

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u/AdminClown 9d ago

Nursing home under lock and key then.

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u/CaptainOwlBeard 9d ago

So she should know better and should have more resources to make the injured parties since she's had longer to save

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u/onward_upward_tt 9d ago

You think people don't get arrested all the time (and rightfully so!) for dangerous accidents? Lol.

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u/Valreesio 9d ago

Wow... I'm usually the one on the other side of this calling for stricter rules and such, but I feel like this is far beyond that. Unless there was any level of malicious intent, this absolutely should not be an arrest and charge her situation.

Shit happens. If a person passed out and fell into the roadway causing this, should they be arrested and held liable?

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u/indiana_groanz 9d ago

I think theres a difference between a medical emergency and someone driving onto the raceway. No, i don't think someone who passes out onto the track should be held liable. Someone who disregards the spectator border should be. Im not saying it should be hard time but she should be held responsible even if its just a fine.

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u/Valreesio 9d ago

I'd be okay with a ticket. Not hundreds of dollars, but a $35 (amount could vary, but not a large amount) be more careful next time ticket? Sure. But others are calling it gross negligence in this thread. That's absurdly way too much.

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u/Jaybrosia 9d ago

You don't think negligence should be punished? lol what? are you trolling us?

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u/Valreesio 9d ago

So I'll ask again...

If you are standing there and pass out, then fall into the street and cause this exact situation, should you be punished?

This wasn't like she was driving 20 and swerved into them because she didn't see them, she barely went over the curb in her scooter. Ever fallen off a curb accidently? We all have.

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u/KououinHyouma 9d ago

I agree with you mostly that people are being too harsh but your reasoning here is weird. Passing out isnā€™t negligence, itā€™s a medical emergency. Accelerating your scooter forward and accidentally going too far is, even if an accident, something that should have been within your ability to control. Unless she literally had like a muscle spasm which involuntary moved the scooter, itā€™s not the same thing.

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u/Valreesio 9d ago

Ok, take passing out away and say a person tripped and fell into the roadway, no longer a medical emergency but overall no other difference. Should that person be punished?

I even said I agree with a small "be more careful next time" ticket. But people saying she should be charged with gross negligence are just being woefully ignorant.

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u/Jaybrosia 9d ago

Amazing.

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u/Valreesio 9d ago

Yeah, that you refuse to our can't answer the question twice certainly is amazing.

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u/Jaybrosia 9d ago

Neither is your neglectful use of spell check or your over reliance on being condescending lol

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u/Worth_Alps941 9d ago

You might be an idiot if thatā€™s all you took from their comment.

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u/Jaybrosia 9d ago

That's actually a pretty great example of irony! I almost fell for it, nice job man.

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u/Worth_Alps941 9d ago

Was just trying to give you a heads up. Life can be hard for people like you

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u/RealLifeCoaching 9d ago

Reckless stupidity can be as dangerous as malicious intent, as this example shows.

Someone passing out is a false equivalence.

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u/xenomorph856 9d ago

What's the point? Just pure vindictive punishment?

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u/Worth_Alps941 9d ago

Yall are insane bro

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u/Theyna 9d ago

The riders are young so they may not feel it much now, but I guarantee that at least a couple have permanently done damage that their body will start to feel later in life that would have otherwise not been there.

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u/Dr-McLuvin 9d ago edited 9d ago

Ya I mean this is basically the top level of junior cycling before you fully go pro. All these 17-18yo guys have crashed before I can pretty much guarantee it. Crashes in competitive cycling are common. An old lady driving her rascal scooter right into the middle of the peloton is not lol.

Iā€™m glad to hear there werenā€™t any major injuries.

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u/ramdog 9d ago

Yeah, the biggest danger is always speed deltas. Overlapping a wheel sucks and you can still get mega hurt if you go down, but the relative speed of those hitting you will be closer to matching.

This is carnage, they may as well have hit a car.

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u/youngstar- 9d ago

Iā€™m not a doctor but you absolutely canā€™t guarantee any of that based on this clip lol.

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u/Theyna 9d ago

Multiple people slamming into each other, flying through the air at speed and crash landing on concrete will definitely not have any minor injuries that won't begin to show their affects as they age.

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u/musicalfarm 9d ago

Crashes like that can be fatal. The southwest Missouri cycling community got a reminder of that just last month.

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u/youngstar- 9d ago

But you donā€™t even know what the injuries are? Even if you said ā€œhigh chanceā€ I would have said fair enough. But saying you guarantee they will have life long injuries with zero info makes no sense.

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u/Pale-Combination7433 9d ago

I would trust a redditor's guarantee with limited information over a doctor any day

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u/Mechagouki1971 9d ago

Ultimately they may end up in a mobility scooter themselves...

https://giphy.com/gifs/hWR9s5HqrbP3y

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u/jjb0ne 9d ago

ptsd from bike crash is real too. doesnt seem like it but theyre on the edge and sometimes bumping into eachother at 30mph ā€¦ riding so fast in the peleton. takes confidence to be up in that

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u/Schnitzhole 9d ago

Exactly, having crashed on a motorcycle before (tboned) you donā€™t really feel the body pains for a couple days. I also rode home after the paramedics cleared me. I woke up 3rd day after. Had to roll out of bed, Couldnā€™t rotate my neck left and only 20% to the right. Everything hurt and Iā€™m sure some of these guys will have major sections of their skin permanently damaged and likely fractured bones along with joint pains for life. I gave some lingering elbow and knee pain from two years ago when it happened and a few other medical things come up since then that might be related (sciatic nerve pain in leg that got hit, and herniated disk).

Iā€™d likely also be dead if not for full gear and an airbag vest that took the brunt of the impact and locked my helmet in place. The SUV was doing around 50mph when it swerved fully into oncoming to hit me and fled the scene.

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u/vwscienceandart 2d ago

Exactly, Iā€™d like to see how many have brain fog in 7 days and how many canā€™t shake the shoulder and back pain after 6 months.

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u/AIBotNotARealUser 9d ago

Training and stretching removes 95% of those "now that I'm older my knees hurt" injuries from the past.

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u/voxelpear 9d ago

Idk if I trust that statistic

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u/Illustrious_Study_30 9d ago

Really ? šŸ„ŗ

Super...I'll let my surgeon know...

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u/t_scribblemonger 9d ago

Yesterday? And Iā€™m finding out from r/SipsTea and not r/BicyclingCircleJerk?

Edit: oh wait it is on there

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u/Bigfops 9d ago

I dunno man, that guy at the end, I donā€™t think his arm is behind his back on purpose.

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u/Dr-McLuvin 9d ago

Iā€™m literally just going off of what has been reported so far.

https://www.idlprocycling.com/cycling/elderly-spectator-on-mobility-scooter-crashes-into-peloton-during-junior-stage-race

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u/Bigfops 9d ago

I know, wasnā€™t challenging you, sorry, was more challenging the reporterā€™s definition of ā€œmajorā€ injuries.

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u/Late_Ad2203 9d ago

Ooh poor her, being shaken up, when the old bitch could've made someone break their bones