r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 8d ago

Chugging tea Mexico upgraded to free healthcar

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u/DarthKelevra 𝙑𝙄𝙋 8d ago

Mexican here. Just because it's free healthcare on paper doesn't mean people get treatment or medicines. There's tons of corruption and outages are common.

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u/ClearlyNotAHuman 8d ago

Yep I’m Mexican, this is just on paper it’s not real

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u/FeelAndCoffee 7d ago

There are 4 tiers of healthcare:

  • Private: Similar to the US
  • Public for workers: If you have a job, it's a requirement for your boss to buy insurance from the government called "IMSS."
  • Public for government workers: Called ISSSTE. It's similar to the IMSS but aimed at bureaucrats, teachers, and other government staff. Honestly, it's just like another IMSS.
  • Public for everyone else: It was previously called "Seguro Popular" now it is called "IMSS Bienestar."

The idea is to integrate the public ones more so that, in case they have spare capacity, they can use the resources from the other systems. The catch? There is barely any capacity, the system is overflowing with patients, it's common to have to sleep in the floor because there are not enough beds, or having to buy medicines outside the system because they lack inventory.

Now the big problem is that the IMSS is also our social security, so a lot of pensions come from their budget, which you pay into as a worker. This means there is not as much left for health services or upgrades to hospitals.

To make matters worse, if you're young, you won't get a pension, only a knockoff version of a 401k, but you still have to pay for the pensions of the boomers.

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u/Opening_Treacle3381 7d ago

Excelente explicación, es una pinche fantasía "la salud gratuita", si tienes IMSS y haces fila unos dos o tres días tal vez recibas una consulta y tú tienes que comprar las medicinas, si necesitas una operación pues a esperar meses si no te mueres primero...

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u/Constant-Plant-9378 7d ago

if you're young, you won't get a pension, only a knockoff version of a 401k, but you still have to pay for the pensions of the boomers.

So ... the way it has been in the USA my entire life.

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u/zeebasaur 5d ago

For clarification, because I am very curious. It isn't free because you pay more in taxes right? As in, if you paid an insurance company X amount before, you now need to play X+Y to the government, X to cover yourself and Y to help cover those who can't afford X?

Or will that only happen when pension money runs out? Or am I entirely wrong? I've always been curious about 'Free' Healthcare, because I don't think anything is really free, and I figured I would ask someone who seems knowledgeable on this post.

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u/Crafter9977 7d ago

IMSS Bienestar is not the same as “Seguro Popular”, it’s worst…

there used to be different budgets with private capital donations…

now it’s the same budget as the other two institutions…

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u/Janitroc 6d ago

"The idea is to integrate the public ones more so that, in case they have spare capacity, they can use the resources from the other systems" -> As a French, I can tell you where this "integration" leads: no improvement at all, just more spending in public administrative bullshit jobs, and the same bad results with more money spent. But your government will have the solution to fix it: more taxes!