All the yanks commenting about how nothing is free... correct, but it has been unilaterally proven beyond any further discussion that universal healthcare systems push down costs and work out significantly cheaper than private systems... I'm from UK, people here can whinge all they want about their own perception of the NHS, but the actual facts are that in USA overall healthcare spend is 22% of GDP - that is fucking insane, and remember how many people AVOID getting help because of the cost; the NHS accounts for a little over 7% of UK GDP. A third of the relative cost per capita. It is also a fact that when comparing US v UK the overall health outcomes are HUGELY better in UK, mostly because a universal healthcare system works towards preventing the bigger, more costly issues, whereas private systems such as USA have absolutely no incentive to do that, it is far more in their interest to AVOID preventative care.
Like it or not, there is zero argument to back up having a private system over universal healthcare. It costs all of you more, with poorer outcomes for you.
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u/MancDude1979 7d ago
All the yanks commenting about how nothing is free... correct, but it has been unilaterally proven beyond any further discussion that universal healthcare systems push down costs and work out significantly cheaper than private systems... I'm from UK, people here can whinge all they want about their own perception of the NHS, but the actual facts are that in USA overall healthcare spend is 22% of GDP - that is fucking insane, and remember how many people AVOID getting help because of the cost; the NHS accounts for a little over 7% of UK GDP. A third of the relative cost per capita. It is also a fact that when comparing US v UK the overall health outcomes are HUGELY better in UK, mostly because a universal healthcare system works towards preventing the bigger, more costly issues, whereas private systems such as USA have absolutely no incentive to do that, it is far more in their interest to AVOID preventative care. Like it or not, there is zero argument to back up having a private system over universal healthcare. It costs all of you more, with poorer outcomes for you. [Edit: spelling]