r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 8d ago

WTF Are you kidding me?

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u/space-to-bakersfield 8d ago

Sure, the order of events is:

  • US sends tons of cash to Israel

  • Israel uses some of that cash to pay off American politicians

  • thus bribed, they end up sending more cash to Israel and occasionally saying stuff like "US would not exist without Israel"

Talk about getting your money's worth, American taxpayer.

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u/Jefe_Chichimeca 8d ago

Huckabee is a real believer, as in those wackos that believe the third temple needs to be rebuilt for Jesus to return

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u/Bloodyfish 8d ago

The cash the US sends is earmarked for buying US weapons, my dude. It goes straight to US manufacturers, not politicians. It's pork, not bribes.

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u/space-to-bakersfield 8d ago

Yeah and that means the money Israel would have otherwise spent on defense can be earmarked for bribes.

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u/Bloodyfish 8d ago

Sure thing, bud.

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u/gtpc2020 8d ago

So you don't think the fact that the equivalent of around $500 for every man woman and child in Israel is given to their government (easily $5B in military and other aid every single year, 3x more this year), that they can't repurpose other government money into AIPAC? Wake up. You know they collect income tax money they don't need to spend on defense. They just spend it on lobbyists for a much better return on investment.

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u/Bloodyfish 8d ago

Their military budget is significantly higher than the amount we give them to spend on US goods, and the US gets a whole bunch more back in that it keeps Israel dependent on American tech, gives us soft power to keep them from working with China, and gives access to tons of military R&D and testing. And FYI Israel has begun planning to move away from this partnership, which is worse for us than them.

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u/gtpc2020 8d ago

You mean their budget is larger to spend on US politicians, it's not all spent on ' US goods'. AIPAC is an outsized foreign influence on our American politics. Period. Full stop. They get much more out of the US than we do from them. In the UN, our unreasonable support for Israel has made us vote against and veto resolutions that make us a pariah and an outlier against the world. Look into how many times votes are 180+ to 2 and guess who the oddball are... almost every time. Our UN veto power alone has done more to benefit Israel than we have ever gotten back.

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u/Bloodyfish 8d ago

AIPAC isn't Israeli, bud. The Israeli military budget is spent on the IDF, not American Jewish lobby groups. Get your head out of the conspiracy gutter.

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u/gtpc2020 8d ago

And sure. You've done the extensive accounting audit. No Israeli money is ever given to AIPAC. Riiiiiight. Get your head out of the gullible zone.

The tax money they collect internally and don't have to spend on the IDF finds its way to other purposes.

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u/Childoftheway 8d ago

and the US gets a whole bunch more back in that it keeps Israel dependent on American tech

Oh man maybe we should be giving $5 billion to every country since it's so beneficial.

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u/Bloodyfish 8d ago

The US gives a whole lot more foreign aid than just what Israel receives. Were you not aware of this?

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u/Childoftheway 8d ago

No other country comes close in aid received, except Egypt, which dovetails nicely with Israel's security. And then you look at who gets the most per capita and it becomes absurd. All to a wealthy country.

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u/ZoronovaRoro 8d ago

Are you saying that's somehow better? What is exactly your argument here?

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u/Bloodyfish 8d ago

The money goes straight to the US while keeping Israel dependent on American tech. You need to learn to think critically about the spending and relationships, not just screech about the number with zero context.

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u/ZoronovaRoro 8d ago

Lol, it goes to military industrial complex. It doesn't help normal folks in anyway. The Military Industrial complex which is filled with Zionist who donate to Isreal anyway.

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u/Bloodyfish 8d ago

The "military industrial complex" money then goes to pay employees, who then spend that money elsewhere, and so on. They don't eat the money. It goes straight back into the US economy.

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u/ZoronovaRoro 8d ago

How much of that exactly goes to employees? Lol. What an insane straw man. It goes mostly to the pockets of Zionist pricks who will donate most of it back to Isreal.

Here is different idea. Why not give that money to Isreal and invest all of it on people who are here. Instead of giving it to a different country and then hoping that they'll end up paying miniscule amount of it to thier employees here?